Italy rejects Moscow’s accusation of ‘anti-Russian hysteria’ over sanctions

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...tion-of-anti-russian-hysteria-over-sanctions/

Maybe Moscow thinks that there is a weak ring in the Western/NATO chain.
In any case this is a clue that Russia is suffering the consequences of the sanctions and that Russian leadership is looking for a way to weaken our community.

Sure they know that we've got reserves. Evidently they are threatening Italy thinking to the future [autumn-winter 2022-2023]. This makes me think that they are optimistic about the ongoing war and that they are planning to go on for a long time.

And actually Russians are digging in Ukraine.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...-shows-russian-forces-digging-in-around-kyiv/

 

The Russians were the first ones to heroically respond when the epidemic hit Italy. Now the same person who asked Moscow for help, is the one who is the most vocal against Russia.

Compare that now to the Chechens, who out of gratitude and a sense of loyalty for what Putin has done for them, have offered their lives to help Russia - not only in Ukraine, but in Syria. But then again honor and loyalty is a lost virtue in the Western world.

 

You see Russia's invasion of Ukraine as honorable and virtuous?

 

We shouldn't listen to the Kremlin parrots on this forum. Moscow has been trying to divide the western world for many years since a united west is exactly what Putin doesn't want. The've sponsored political parties and media outlets that they see beneficial to their strategy. It's very simple but often quite effective, sponsering right-wing parties who willingly turn themselves into useful idiots and spreading their "truth" via RT and other outlets.
Putin and his bootlickers will cling to everything they can in the future to 'demonstrate' their superiority. These people have no respect for human life, human rights or democratic ideas. In their perception authoritarian and totalitarian systems are superior to anything the west can offer. The lies from Moscow we've been hearing and reading in the last couple of months are so absurd even by Kremlin standards that it's impossible to take these claims seriously. Moscow's propaganda apparatus doesn't even try to be coherent, they just spew out whatever lie comes to their mind.

 

Big mistake if anyone ever thinks of Italy as a “weak link”

I expect Russia to try a lash out at everyone and blame everyone BUT themselves

They may be “digging in” in Ukraine but that is not a guarantee for victory - sometimes it just makes targeting easier

 

The other day Corriere della Sera published an article entitled "From Moscow to St. Petersburg: how life in Russia will change."
I got the impression that this article was written by a madman who had never been to Russia.
“No credit cards, all social networks are closed, sugar disappears from supermarkets, coffee costs three times as much. Goodbye foreign fashion brands. Inflation will eat up all your savings,” is how columnist Marco Imarisio describes the life of Muscovites.
Realistically, any Russian will tell you that only an idiot who has never been to Russia could write such a thing.
In Russia, there are no problems at all due to sanctions. Some goods have risen in price, it's true. But the maximum increase in price that I have seen is within 20% for top-end computer components. (For example, some types of RAM and video cards)
Top clothing brands also rose in price by about 20%.
There are a number of other goods with rising prices, but these goods are not decisive.
Gasoline in Russia has become cheaper. And this is the key indicator. Is not it?
Everything depends on this indicator. From the cost of food and their timely delivery to the cost of utility bills.
I do not understand why the Western media write nonsense about the Russian economy and social policy.
For example. Suits from Armani have risen in price - and what? For 90% of the population of any of the most developed countries in the world, this means nothing at all.
Facebook ceased to exist - so what? There are thousands of other social networks. Nobody limits the Internet in Russia. (Several sites that violate the law of Russia have been closed. For example, meta (Facebook, Instagram) have been blocked for allowing posts to be written calling for the killing of Russians. And rightly so. (How would you react, for example, to a social network where it is allowed to write posts with a call to kill Italians?)) ...
But the price of gasoline for any person is the defining value of the standard of living.
By the way, bank cards of any operators (Visa, Mastercard ... etc. - any) in Russia operate freely and without any restrictions. The only restrictions apply with transfers outside of Russia. But inside Russia, all bank cards work as before.

 

Well, the situation is not so dramatic.
And to say all the great increase of demand during the reopening after the pandemic has already generated an increase of the prices.
Inflation is overall the reason: an excess of demand after the end of the general lockdown.

Now, this war doesn't help, but it's a local limited war. We are receiving interesting offers coming from different potential suppliers.
We are considering them.

Anyway, the point is that we are not in a desperate situation: we've got reserves.
There is time to find alternative to our former friends ["Great friends" they said ...].

 

That's true. Russians in those trenches could be surprised by Ukrainian weapon systems.
In the meanwhile Russians have made a pivotal mistake: they have used their hypersonic missiles.
NATO commands were dreaming about this: now we know those missiles, they are not the object of some rumors.

I thank Russians for this.

 

As our Prime Minister has underlined, we are annoyed by that reference to the intervention of some NBC Russian units in Italy in the early phase of the pandemics. We appreciated it, but they were irrelevant, not relevant as Russian propaganda sustains. Russians came here to know the incoming enemy, not to help us.

 

Good luck with your search.

 

There is nothing honorable about bombing hospitals and terrified civilians.

The brutality of YOUR military is only matched by its incompetence. Every day this drags on you bring shame upon Russia.

 

Considering it stopped the genocide of the people in Donbass by an illegitimate government, YES!

 

An effort to save lives is justification to kill lives later? My aching ass

 

Move to Russia they want your kind over there. They’re mad at their gnat citizens for protesting so you’ll fit in just fine with what Putin wants.

 

Everytime the media depicts pictures of atrocities by Ukrainian Nazis against civilians without mentioning who is actually causing the atrocities, doesn't bring shame to them, but sends them to the depths of hell where they belong. They will no more survive than Berlin did at the end of WWII.

 

Straight out of the Russian propaganda machine.

But you’ve got a job to do, and you do it.

 

Russians show what they want to show.
By the way, quite recently, on this forum, some wrote that Russia does not have hypersonic weapons. What is shown is an animation.
But today, for some reason, they are silent.

 

There is no genocide, there was no genocide in Donbass. These are Kremlin arguments used by people who have no arguments.
That genocide fairy tale has not been confirmed by any third party worldwide, strangely enough it's just Russia repeating that claim over and over again. A real genocide doesn't go unnoticed by the world, now all of a sudden, when the invasion started, Moscow decided to use a made-up genocide argument as one of their absudly cheap justifications for what in reality is an illegal war of aggression. Russia - a totalitarian dictatorship - wants to 'denazify' other countries by trying to kill a Jewish president, bombarding a Holocaust memorial and forcing real Holocaust survivors to seek shelter in their basements. Sure.

 

Don't you see America's invasion of Sadaam's Iraq as honorable and virtuous? Don't you see the allies invasion of Nazi Germany as honorable and virtuous?

By the same token, Russia sees the invasion of Ukraine as honorable and virtuous.

 

The Western world became divided when Washington was taken over by a bunch of sociopaths who lie and deceive consistently to pad their pockets. They war wherever they want whenever they want. Well the games over for them, and unfortunately I live here and my family will suffer as justice starts prevailing.

You're not flipping now are you? As for the rest, it's the usual garbage.

They'll flip it here.
They'll flip it there.
For flipping is their name.

And what they do
they'll say it's you
so you can take the blame.
.
It fills their need
and all their greed,
which is an awful shame.

But that's the way of sociopaths
to them it's but a game.

- Jeannette​

 

I’ve always acknowledged that they had them and never seen anyone claim they did not.

But as for the comment you’re replying to, there is nothing we have that can stop those missiles so why would he be thanking Russia for that

 

Military expert Scott Ritter on Russian Offensive in Ukraine.

 

You've lied in the past, you're lying now and you will probably continue to lie in the future. It's what propaganda parrots do.

 

Just because our Government/Corporate controlled media covers up what is not politically expedient to the Washington criminals, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The proof of genocide is not only the attacks by the Nazis on the civilians of Donetsk for the past eight years, but also the images of the mass graves of Russian civilians in areas under Ukrainian Nazi control. They were presented as visual proof to the UN a few months ago.

Here are just a few of the videos. The most incriminating ones have been removed by Youtube:

Attack by Ukraine Nazis in the center of Donetsk:


Destruction of town by Nazis as they were forced to leave


Here's proof of a false flag attack by Ukraine.


Another attack by Ukraine on civilians


Ukrainian terrorist attack on Journalists in Donetsk:

 

Well it's not the first time Italy allied with nazis so it is what it is.