January 6 Committee has exceeded expectations.

I explained in a post a few weeks ago that the purpose of this committee was legislative, and not criminal.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ngs-are-only-for-legislative-purposes.601220/

However, this committee has gone above and beyond their duties. And we should credit Kevin McCarthy for having a part in achieving this. His failure to appoint obstructionists to the committee is allowing it to accomplish more, in a very short time... AND communicate if effectively to the American people; than probably any other committee in the history of Congress.

By the end of these hearings, we can already see that the accomplishments will be (or already are) in three areas:

1- Legislative: Many bills are likely to come out of this. Bills about things we never imagined, before Trump, would ever even NEED to legislate about. Already one passed that ensures that the electoral vote counting is purely ceremonial. More will pass, some won't. But any that pass will help strengthen our Democracy.

2- Criminal: the committee has no power to prosecute. But they have obtained actual CONFESSIONS from all those close to Trump who were involved in the January 6 insurrections. Confessions from Trump's inner staff, his attorneys and even his own family. This is why the DOJ is so interested in these tapes.

3- Informational: The committee has produced a huge amount of information that will become more and more relevant to the American people in the next few months. So anybody who sees Donald Trump being hauled off to prison and asks why, all we'll need to do is show video of his staff, his attorneys and... even his own family CONFESSING to their role, under orders from Trump, to the insurrection.

Both the WSJ's and the NY Post's Editorial Boards (not just individual columnists, but the Editorial Boards themselves) have turned against Trump, in light of these hearings. Trump is becoming isolated and everybody is preparing for the former pseudo-President to do jail time.

And there is not much Trump loyalists can appeal to. They can call it a "show trial" or a "circus" to their heart's content. But this "show trial" has obtained actual CONFESSIONS to criminal wrong-doing. That's going to land somebody in jail. And at this point there is no turning back. Garland has already called this the most important investigation in the history of the DOJ. We KNOW they have these confessions. There is no way to turn back now.

Confessions under oath in a "Show Trial" are just as valid as a confession in front of a judge. So if calling it "names" makes you feel better, go for it. But whatever you call it is not going to have any effect whatsoever on the final outcome.

 

Yes they have exceeded all our expectations, they have been even more insipid and inconsequential than we expected.

 

Is that what you call it? Obstructionists? New word for lack of opposition?

The number of people watching has become less as they became bored and disgusted with the lack of fairness. It has failed to sway republicans.

 

I agree. I only expected a noticeable kangaroo court, but they have been looking like a full-fledged Stalinist purge trial. Impressive, in a way.

 

I have to say, I'm super surprised that I have to agree with Golem here. Yea Haww..... Perhaps the wonders of the show trial to inform the world of just how ridiculous democrats and their wannabe's are well, that is just the ticket. If this is a demonstration of what democrats now think justice looks like... buckle up buttercups.... And how can they possibly cry now? if say show trials are used against... gasp... them... LMAO...

Golem, rejoice, January isn't far away.

 

And just wait for Trump trial in criminal court! It will blow your mind away.

Seriously, looks to me like the DoJ may have been dragging their feet for a while. Maybe it's not fun to prosecute a former President, maybe they wanted to give Biden and future Presidents the power to break the law and go unpunished. ... Who knows... but now this "kangaroo court", like you call it, is FORCING them to take action. I think that's one huge accomplishment.

 

Yes we have

Accomplishment #1
Proving how viewership of the American voters will tank by over 60% for every broadcaster who dared air this kangaroo committee

Accomplishment #2
Proving how disconnected the DNC really is from American voters ignoring the economic, border, gas price, inflation historical disasters to hold hearings with no cross examinations to verify any witness testimony just to have another Trumpy tantrum with a committee with no teeth.

Accomplishment #3
Proving even further how Democrat committees will refuse to call any testimony from government officials that request to testify against witnesses they know are lying

And the winner of this legislative Trumpy Tantrum is, the outcome of the midterms.

And we all thank you for all this.
And right after the failed Russia Russia Russia scandal
at the hands of yet another Democrat committee,
And the failed Mueller testimony
at the hands of yet another Democrat committee,
And the failed impeachment attempts
at the hands of yet another Democrat committee
And the failed Kavanaugh hearings
at the hands of yet another Democrat committee

 

Ahhh and there it is. This is the intention of these hearings. To get a guilty verdict in public opinion without having an actual trial. The ENTIRE purpose of those farce of a trial is to subvert the principle of “innocent until proven guilty”.

This was never intended to cause criminal charges to be brought because these scam artists are fully aware they could not make this absurd case in an actual court of law. Garland won’t touch this with a 100 ft pole.

 

A successful witch hunt for sure.
I cannot wait until the tables are turned. Wait and see the witch hunt the very next semi violent protest that democrats do

 

"Confessions" was used as a hyperbolic term by Cheney. It's not based in reality. Name the "confessions" from Trump's inner staff? You can't, because it isn't true.

Now imagine how much information we would have if the Democrats allowed counter opinions to be introduced.

It's important to be able to separate hyperbole from fact. The only "confessions" were from members of radical groups who were primarily seeking leniency in their sentencing. There were no "confessions" among Trump's inner circle.

 

Yep.. from now on if we need anyone charged we just have an unrestrained legislative branch do criminal investigations… they answer to no one.

 

For what crime?

 

SHOT: How Did Democrats Become So Out of Touch With the American People? -Josh Hammer

Chaser: How in God’s name are the Democrats still losing — even after Jan. 6 hearings and Roe? –Salon

"Well, if you want to lose touch with the American people, reading Salon is as good a place to start as any."

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House Elections shaping up very nicely for the GOP

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J6 dog and pony show is going great!

 

and when Trump is president in 2025 again thanks to 4 years of complete Democrat incompetence, deluded libs can rewatch highlights from the hearings on 1/20/25 at noon instead of Trump's inauguration speech

We are heading down a path of economic collapse, continued growing crime rates, and never ending illegal immigration issues, but the Trump obsession remains their #1 issue

Before, I get the usual Lib nonsense replies, I am a Trump hater too, I just live in the real world and have zero interest in political partisan nonsense. Maybe we can have a hearing next week with 4th hand info to answer the burning question of what brand of ketchup hit the wall...

 

Bingo! Once the evidence is shown to the American public they will know that Trump is guilty, and the DOJ will have no excuse to not prosecute him, former President or not.

 

No. They were actual confessions. They confessed they played a role in the insurrection. They ALSO swore to uphold the Constitution, so they CONFESSED that they didn't carry out their sworn duty.

I'm not interested in opinions. From EITHER side. I only care about the FACTS.

If Trump has counter-FACTS, what is he waiting for to present them?

That's not a rhetorical question. What IS he waiting for? Why is he not DEMANDING to go under oath and tell his side of the story?

 

There's a reason you're using vague generalizations rather than quotes. You know it. I know it. We all know it.

 

So, the Democrats won't be able to challenge electoral votes anymore? I can't wait to see how that goes over the next time a Republican wins the presidency.

 

Yes! There is definitely a reason I don't use quotes. The reason is that I expect everybody here to have listened to the sessions on TV. I have sent post after post imploring for anybody who wishes to engage in a serious discussion to watch the hearings.

As for "generalizations"... I would have to quote EVERYTHING, to prove that they didn't do enough to stop the insurrection. By which they ALSO failed to uphold their oath of office.

 

If it's a symbolic protest, I don't care. But if it's part of an organized insurrection like this one, they most DEFINITELY should be held accountable too.

 

From my understanding, we've never had a lunatic with the football so there was no reason to do any of that. US Presidents were just expected to be loyal to our country, honest, forthcoming and competent. He doesn't check any of those and they won't realize it until he stabs them in the back.

 

Thank you for going into detail about why this matters and what it means for all of us Americans. I would have never imagined that this hearing would lead to legislation protecting us from future dictator wannabes who would take advantage of our open, trusting system.

I also must confess that although I watched 2 of the hearings, and what they said knocked my socks off, I quickly lost track of them by being distracted by school and my job. And, I feel like a lot of Americans stopped keeping track. Especially after Republican voices chimed in that it was just a show trial and a distraction from a lack of solving America's problems.

 

Democrats tried to disqualify the EC vote in 2016, 2004 and 2000. It wasn't "symbolic".

 

As you know I'm a news junkie and have followed Trump's criminal acts regarding 1/6 very closely. But there has unquestionably been numerous consequential, new revelations coming from the hearings. As I've said, they have done an exemplary job.

 

That's not how this works. The Democrats control the time and the questions. As soon as he starts saying something they don't like they can reclaim their time and start with a new line of punishments. He has no right to an attorney or to "tell his side of the story." Additionally, you'll notice they haven't called him. You can probably guess why that is. They don't have any real evidence against him, if they did it wouldn't be Bannon in contempt right now.