Jaw dropping- New 9/11 footage destroys main stream narrative

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Comments section: I've helped put out a lot of fires as a volunteer fireman. One reality about fires is that things explode when heated. Standpipes full of water get hot, the water turns to steam, pressure builds, the pipe bursts. Cylinders of compressed gas get hot, pressure builds, they explode, sometimes w/ enough force to knock a fireman 1/4 mile away (YT has video of it). Wood and plastic get hot and release vapors that can burn. The bottom line is YOU DON'T NEED BOMBS TO HAVE EXPLOSIONS!
     
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    Nice dodge. I can perform audio separation, WHERE are these 3 explosions. It's amazing that only you can hear them and when asked to be specific you are afraid to provide this simple thing. Timestamps, exactly where you heard your 3 "explosions".

    p.s. the audio waveform shows no detonation spikes. These are routinely and unavoidably extremely loud!
    https://unsaferguard.org/un-saferguard/noise-prediction
    25kg of TNT would be audible at 630m away and close by would hit 140dB

    But even so, just 3 explosions and that suffices? What did the explosions do that 2 tons of kinetic energy couldn't do?
     
  4. Kokomojojo

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    what makes you think it would?
    ok so you think there was tnt laying on the ground then that they exploded?
     
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    And again, you dodge the request. You are making this crap up. There are NO audible explosions, just a clear, continuous rumble from a live broadcast very nearby.

    A totally ridiculous thing to say. How big were your hushabooms, audible explosions, phantom noises, whatever you claim? 25kg of TNT is a quite small amount!

    How big do you figure the 3 pretend explosions were? But even so, just 3 explosions and that suffices? What did the explosions do that 2 tons of kinetic energy couldn't do?

    Supertech Twin Tower: 3,700 kg explosives, 100 workers to demolish buildings in seconds - The Economic Times (indiatimes.com)

    "The company will need 15 days to complete the process to charge explosives at the buildings. 'Charging' of the explosives is a process to pack 3,700 kg of explosives into over 9,000 holes that have drilled into the towers’ concrete. At least 100 workers are part of the demolition team, as per reports. The explosives are a mix of dynamite, emulsions and plastic explosives."

    That's two 40 storey towers considerably smaller!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh there were definitely bombs. 911/PRAGER, Jeff • Avalon Library

    Can you handle reading that Koko? Probably not. If you manage to open and read Prager's work, consider reading Heinz Pommer's work too.
     
  7. Kokomojojo

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    dodged
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    Im not answering anything you post unless you start answering what I post
    I think we are on the same page with bombs.
    I just posted firemen that got blown across the room from bombs exploding and it went ignored.

    Seems there are people dont know the difference between bursting and bombs, and dont understand what they sound like, nothing I can do to change that.
     
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    Despite asking this fairly simple question you are evading my request. EVERYONE knows why, you are making crap up. There are NO explosions, not your made up 3, that only "people who know" can hear. I have the capacity to analyze any sound wave fully. Bring it on, but you won't because there is no explosion. Not even one.

    Low building rumble does not operate in the same frequency as building detonations and as previously PROVEN, they are exceedingly loud for just a tiny 25kg charge!

    No, that is a totally absurd thing to say. I am assuming as part of the general batshittery concerning "demolition" that these so called "audible explosions" (which are NOT audible) were used to break part(s) of the building support critical to it remaining upright. Ergo they were planted within the building and not on the frickin' ground!

    How big do you figure the 3 pretend explosions were?

    But even so, just 3 explosions and that suffices? What did the explosions do that 2 tons of kinetic energy couldn't do?

    Supply the timestamps of these "audible 3 explosions"!
     
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    I disagree, I asked simple questions to determine the validity of that statement, and it was dodged, so there is no need for me to respond until I can do my investigation into the facts.
     
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    YOU claimed there were 3 audible explosions! Where are they!

    How big do you figure the 3 pretend explosions were?

    But even so, just 3 explosions and that suffices? What did the explosions do that 2 tons of kinetic energy couldn't do?

    Supply the timestamps of these "audible 3 explosions"!
     
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    I already told you when the explosions took place.
    I started to ask you questions to validate your claim and you dodged and continue to dodge them, so say your piece and be done with it. Im forced to conclude your methods are faulty.
     
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    I know what they sound like and there are NONE!

    EXACTLY WHERE! You say you heard them! Why are you afraid to point out exactly where these hushabooms "noises" occur?

    NOBODY "recognizes it" - there are no sounds and you know this. THAT is why you have failed to supply the exact time stamp.

    I just isolated all your replies. You "told me" they occurred before the collapse and you said you heard 3 of them. EXACTLY where!?
     
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    yep still dodging

    I concede the firefighters and other first hand witnesses that all heard and saw and reported explosions are all imagining it.

    Clearly because you cant hear it everyone else is nuts. Theres your proof folks!

    Im forced to conclude your methods are faulty.

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    You made it up and are afraid to post it. I am dodging nothing, I asked you to substantiate your false claim. As yet you haven't.
    Nope, I have no issue with any number of noises and explosions heard by people as reported. The vast majority were in close proximity. It probably fails to be noted by you or any person making the "explosions were demolition" batshit claims. Quite a substantial number of these noises occurred well before the building collapsed, are perfectly consistent with building fire explosions and the idea of weakening the lobby first is so stupid it beggars belief. It also didn't happen, the building collapsed from the top, gave way exactly where the planes crashed and is fully consistent with the floors bowing and giving way.

    A particularly nauseating statement. YOU are the one claiming to hear noises on a video I posted. YOU are afraid to post where these "3 explosions" occur.

    Where? You make up crap and fail to provide timestamps. There is absolutely no reason for you not to provide this, unless of course you were being economical with the truth!
     
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    not to worry I concede, whatever you post cant be questioned! We get it!

    Ok folks make sure the volume levels on speakers are way below a 1 to prevent damaging them. This is a thermate linear cutter and they are so loud you can hear them 5 miles away!

    I am not responsible if you blow your speakers out because you failed to turn the volume down.



    I concede beta! Whenever my questions get dodged, I declare you the winner.

    Remember people turn your volumes down this mofo is an ear blaster!
     
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    Whoah there! Look at this gish-gallup batshit.

    We went from "I heard 3 explosions" to the utter hogwash about thermite. When cornered, nowhere to go, because he made up some crap about explosions, we have the batshit-two-step.

    NOTHING you have said has been dodged, again you are making crap up to "justify" your evasion.
    • Enormous "thermate-cutters" need to be installed! How big do you figure just one would need to be to cut one column? Look at the size of the one used above to cut that thin rod!
    • On the WTC there are 47 columns just on the inner core. So how many charges/magic-enormous-thermite-things do you figure to rig the whole building?
    • We need to coerce the emergency workers in case they see remains of one of these magic cutters, there would need to be a considerable number of them.
    • We have to get them designed and built and delivered without anyone noticing.
    • There can be no paper/electronic trails for any money, materials, staff payments etc. for these machines. These things would need loads of specialist parts built.
    • Hopefully there are no staff wondering why they are building hundreds or more realistically thousands of these huge thermite cutters? Plus none coming forward after the event and going "hang on a minute"!
    • Then we need to get god knows how many people to commit to invisibly planting them, knowing they are going to murder thousands of Americans!
    The most amazing thing, is these huge damn things numbering in the hundreds at least! must be wheeled in to both buildings with nobody noticing, then magically/invisibly moved to the exterior columns as well as the interior ones.

    What a total crock of batshit!

    The second amazing thing is that this thread restarted AFTER this same person said this:

    Kokomojojo: "news reporters stated there were bombs, we even heard them on the tapes"

    Kokomojojo: "hundreds of videos recorded explosions, you know, loudaboom explosions, I suggest you click on them"

    Kokomojojo: "yep I hear 3 huge 'explosions', then the collapse, but then only people that know what they sound like can identify them"

    And as I said, when cornered, forget all THAT crap and move on to to the magic thermite cutters.
     
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    That response suggests you are not interested in Prager's work...
     
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    Only in cartoon physics.

    It is not like the pressure is moving at supersonic speeds to concentrate at particular points or that the piston action from above would be airtight.
     
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    Thanks for your opinion. I'm sure you have thought about all the shock waves from this massive impact.
     

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