Jim Acosta Condemns Trump for Saying What Jim Acosta Said

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  1. Ericb760

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    I am still trying to figure out why understanding this simple fact is so damned difficult for some.
     
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    Oh I should have read this more carefully. I forgot Chinese paid posters log into Northern American servers.
     
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    It’s name recognition. One day people will look back and remembering its nickname, including the name of origin, is helpful for people to recognize it.

    That’s just how people are, and thats why its done.
     
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    Encouraging the stigma against Asians because of some I'll conceived notion that you need to punish the geographical origin of the virus can absolutely be traced to trump.

    Especially when he intentionally continued to engage in that behavior after being warned by dozens.
     
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    You are suggesting that I am paid by china?
     
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    You make that assertion because...........?
     
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    It’s not encouraging a stigma against Asians. Nor is it punishing the geographical origin of the virus. It’s simply nicknaming it, including the name of its origin, and its very appropriate.

    He has been “warned” by people who choose to see wrong in anything he does, including travel bans that bought us much time and saved many lives. So i dont see why he would listen to dems or the MSM criticizing him for that.
     
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    Because its logical.
     
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    Covid-19 or coronavirus accomplishes that exact same goal without the associated stigma and harm created by intentionally continuing to use an inappropriate name.
     
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    You are strongly encouraged to review the protocols from the WHO and the CDC for naming novel viruses. This is not some new concept.
     
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    No it doesn’t, adding the area of origin helps.
     
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    Per the rules of the forum, I obviously cannot state that you are.

    We are all just making observations of your posts. And your deep commitment to China. Are you a paid or non paid Chinese poster? Who knows. But we all can make our assumptions.

    Russia and China love using forums for a place to spread hate. Speaking of which- how much do you love Trump? lol.

    Just a joke. I don't know the Chinese phrase for "Just messin' with ya" but hopefully you get the picture.
     
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    Correct descriptor: COVID-19 is a coronavirus first observed in humans in Wuhan, China in late 2019.

    Incorrect descriptor: CHINA VIRUS!!!

    I'll leave it up to the adults in the room to figure out why.
     
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    You are strongly encourged to look at history. The reason people nickname despite having official names is still valid.
     
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    Calling it the china virus, or anything similar like the wuhan virus is appropriate.
     
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    Not even remotely.
     
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    It definitely does.
     
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    You'll find that backhanded and thinly disguised efforts to skirt the rules will still yield a ping shortly.
     
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    I know- they give you guys a lengthy script
     
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    I say it is not logical. So, where do we go from here?

    Fact is this. The correct name for the nasty is Covid-19. Trump likes to call it the 'Shiner Virus' to emphasise his lack of responsibility for it, but he forgets, or he does not care that in doing so, he is demonising Chinese people particularly those who live in the USA who likely are feeling under attack because of the way Trump uses that expression. He is not saying 'China Virus' to simply give it a geographical ground zero. He wants people to condemn China (and divert attention away from his mismanagement of it) and Chinese for it.
     
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    If you are incapable of remembering the name covid-19 or coronavirus, then that is your problem. Using the phrase Chinese virus at this point is intentionally inappropriate and harmful to a significant population of your fellow Americans.
     
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    Well, I say you are wrong. It is logical.

    Yes the correct name is covid 19. However nicknaming is appropriate and useful. Calling it the china virus is not demonizing china or Chinese or Asian people. They do deserve to be recognized as the country of origin however, and attempting to blame us for it.

    Either way, calling it the china virus, or any other similar term like the wuhan virus is absolutely justified and useful.
     
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    I never claimed to be incapable of remembering the actual name. However society as a whole does, thats just the fact of it. So nicknaming is useful, and that’s why people do it. Calling it the Chinese virus is not only accurate, but appropriate and should continue to be used.

    And it certainly isn’t harming anyone, anymore than critiquing Trump is resulting in people harming Trump supporters.
     
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    Ah....and there it is Holmes!

    See, just a little scratching and the real 'you' emerges. Show me anyone anywhere who has blamed 'you' for it, especially anyone from China who has blamed 'you' for it.
     
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    I didnt say “me”, so you are correct...a little scratching and the real ‘you’ emerges..the one that purposefully misrepresents others arguments in order to prop up a straw man lol.

    I said “us” as in the United States. That was pretty obvious. And its true, china did attempt to blame us. You dont have to like this, but it is true nonetheless.
     
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