Judge rejects Stein's request for hand recount

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Madison — Green Party candidate Jill Stein paid $3.5 million Tuesday to clear the way for Wisconsin's presidential vote recount but had a judge reject her lawsuit to require all Wisconsin counties to do the recount by hand.

Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn said the effort to force the hand recount — which was backed by Democrat Hillary Clinton’s campaign — did not meet the state’s legal standard for prohibiting the use of machines in the recount, saying that the two campaigns did not show a hand recount, though more thorough, was necessary or show there was a clear and convincing evidence of fraud or other problems.Bailey-Rihn said there were good reasons to do a hand recount but no legal basis for her to mandate it. - source​

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While I would have liked to see a hand count, the court has spoken; so be it. The recount however, will still continue as planned, starting Thursday. The courts decision has shown, unilaterally, that mere suspicion alone is not enough for the law to force an issue. You must have proof and evidence, in this instance, beyond just exit polls.

 

I appreciate your acceptance of the application of law in this matter. If this election has taught us anything, polls are in fact NOT proof, much less evidence. When the media at large and half the country attempts to shame voters of a candidate, they tend not to participate in polls. It is this fact which caused the "shock" to begin with. Folks do not want to be called names because they support one candidate over another. I court the chaos personally... but I am different than most.

Statistical anomalies as well. They were the source of the complaint, in that districts which had electronic tabulation Clinton didn't do as well as she did where hand ballots were... which could just has easily pointed to fraud on her side... as hand ballots are easier to forge than hacking the machines.

 

They can do the recount without connecting the machines into the internet,
I'm sure hackers can manipulate the machine but they could not change what's being inked into the ballots.
But in exception the e-voting.

 

There was no hacking, none.

The machines were never connected to the internet in the first place.

These people have been operating this scam based off literally no evidence.

Actually they do have "evidence" at least as far as they see it, want to know what it is?

Its the fact that Trump did well in areas that used electronic voting, but here's what they don't tell you: Trump was EXPECTED to do well in those areas all along.

No no, this is all one giant scam.

I want to know Stein's motivation for doing all of this.

Maybe its purely to bilk money out of unsuspecting donors.

Or maybe shes taking some serious (perhaps even life threatening) pressure from the DNC and Hillary Clinton's powerful friends because she dared to run in the first place and took "Hillary's votes".

Regardless, Donald Trump is President and that will not change.

Democrats need to stop acting like sore losers so they can begin the process of understanding why it is they lost and make changes to their platform for the future.

 

Bu bu bu but hillary did win, she won the popular vote we need to share the presidency. She also needs a "I won too" trophy....arrrgh where is my petting pony...it should have been here by now.

 

And they charged 3.5 million where it cost 1.1 million in the past.....

 

Granny says, "Dat's right...

... The Donald won...

... end of story."

 

Head on over to YouTube and you can watch all kinds of videos where people had trouble voting for Trump. The machines kept automatically reverting back to Hillary.

So when she's loses the recount, what's the left's next move? I guess we're at the bargaining stage of grief but will this start the process all over? Will neoliberals riot when she loses again. The neoliberals really need to learn to lose, that's why it's important to teach children how to lose instead of giving everyone a trophy.

 

Understandable, there is twice the population than last time.

 

Stein was whining about having to pay up with the money she bilked out of the suckers who gave it to her.

 

Politically, morally, ethically Stein has no reason to be calling for these recounts as she can't possibly when. The person who does is silent and in hiding, the losing candidate usually makes the rounds and makes press appearences etc. Why is she silent? Well one reason her final month long attack in Trump her her pledges to accept the results of the election. Why hasn't she called to end this nonsense?

We were all so ready for the election to be over, the only reason it isn't is the vanity of one person.

 

the swing states have more illegal immigrants than ever before, and they appear to have swung the election for President Trump since he employs them at his hotels.

this was a grave injustice done to the American people by the courts, since the hand ballots are the ones where fraud is more likely.

 

Wow, a Liberal judge following the law? What a novel concept! She must be new to this game.
It’s not about “finding” votes, it’s about Jill Stein delaying the certification so the electors can not cast their votes. I don't think Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn will be invited to many Democrat liberal cocktail parties for for some time in the near future.

 

After having to use her ill gotten gains to pay for the effort Jill Stein now belongs to the "Got No Green" party. LOL!

 

I think it has to do with fear that our political system is absurdly rigged, and she's right in that assertion. We have a plethora of candidates, but the two party dictatorship has essentially rioted them out of the running.

As for her "motivation" in addition to what I said above, I think she wants transparency.

And I think that's very fair to want, especially after the president elect ran a campaign built on lies, deceptions, false promises, and an anti-pc platform that, while I appreciate the sentiment, vastly inflated the fears of minority groups across the country (and deny all you like, it certainly DID embolden people to spray paint horribly odorous swastikas and other foul terminology across the nation on cars, stores, etc.) Especially after this same odorous and absurd comb over cheeto jesus claimed the elections were rigged (and he's right.)

 

The loser has got to lose. That what losers do, figure how to lose more.

 

Rigged in what way that the recounts are going to prove and that would give her the margin to win?

And she is more than free to go on MSNBC or 60 Minutes or write an editorial on it and make her assertions, then the people can decide if they believe her not, and nothing will change because she will have nothing to back up her claim that this election was rigged.

But calling for unnecessary recounts that will not prove anything and once again the Democrats going through these phony exercises so that for the next four years that Trump is not the legitimate President. It's petty vindictiveness and they are acting like petulant children. The country needs to get through the lawful transition without this nonsense about the election was rigged and that Trump is not the legitimate winner of the most electors and the Democrats need to stop and figure out how they are going to work with an administration that is actually go work to do things to get us back on track again else they will only continue to lose at all levels of government.

If you want to talk rigged, the rigging was in the Democrat Party where the candidate was pre-ordained and guarantied the win.

What does that mean? What "transparency", what are recounts going to show about the election not being "transparent"?

If she has evidence that a precienct did not report accurate results and someone tampered with the ballots then why hasn't she giving it to the FBI?

What on earth does any of that have to do with unnecessary recounts of verified results? You think the recounts are going to prove there is racism out there? You believe it will show that people how voting for Trump are Nazi's? And now you agree with their leader?

 

Well, we can see you are coming at this from an emotional angle. If Stein wanted transparency she would have started in other States with even smaller margins. She is doing a couple of things, trying to stay relevant and gathering an email database (worth a lot), but other than that, she is just making a fool of herself while lying through her teeth that she wants 'transparency'. It is sad to see Hillary jump on board after all her wild (and now shallow) accusations against Trump not accepting the election.

 

Maybe and just maybe Jill was hurt with the anti-feminist comments by Trump, like grab her by the (tooooooooot), ,
and yes you are correct Trump is our President and we should support him for the betterment of everyone, and I think as a neophyte in that area he do need a lot of that support.
We could not divest also the right of those who are lost to ask for a recount,
it's a part of being free and being democratic let the process continue, Trump wins and of course this will not deter him a bit.

 

the best part of this, is it was one of the liberal judges who ran unopposed for election in a liberal city... so nobody can blame republicans for this judge... so I guess that means they will have to choke down the results without being able to scream political bias from the person who ruled on it...

P.S. this is also why I think any race that has no opposition should contain a "none of thee above" option so voters can toss out people running unopposed... even when its someone from their own party, judges long go unopposed, because anyone who dares go against a sitting judge, will have hell to pay in the court room when someone from their firm goes before that judge... its an example of corruption in the justice system...

 

Yeah, I say on with the recount. It will be fun watching Hillary lose again.

 

Hillary is a zombie. She says that she will run again in 2020. By that time she will certainly look like she's a zombie.

 

The Democrats just instilled Schumer and Pelosi back into their congressional leadership and about to elect Keith Elison as the DNC head. DO NOT discount ANYTHING!!!

The Democrats DESPERATELY need a drastic changed in leadership and direction just as the Republicans have and continue to go through. Yet they refuse to acknowledge that and it could totally destroy the party. They have the least political power since 1929, that cannot be overstated.

 

Don't be such a Chicken Little. The Dems will control Congress and the White House in 2024. Then the cry will be that the Repubs
are goners.

 

I believe the propeller has come off your beanie.