Judge: Stop Sending Asylum Seekers to Mexico

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  1. Mac-7

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    The evidence pointing to a deep state is pretty clear

    The emails between peter strock a lisa page make it clear they oppose trump and intend to do what they can to bring him down

    Or the discussion between rosenstein and orr I think it was about wearing a wire into the White House to entrap trump

    there is plenty more that needs to be investigated by a special council
     
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    True

    But they are not immigrants either

    They are taking advantage of a loophole in the law that should be closed
     
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    The law is the law, and their is loophole, no matter how long anyone claims such.

    Anyone who does not like can petition for the law to be changed.
     
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    It is no scam. There is no immigration clause in our Constitution and we should have no illegal problem. All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id.

    We should be upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure.

    A fee or a fine could help fund those infrastructure upgrades.

    There should be no black market enabled by Government sloth.
     
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    We have too many immigrants already and do not need any more

    Particularly poor uneducated immigrants
     
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    Why do you believe that?

    The entire US population can fit in the State of Texas. New Cities in more optimal location can only upgrade our economy.
     
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    We have the largest welfare budget in the world

    The ladt thing America needs is more poor people
     
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    I don't blame the children or even the adults that bring them here. You and I would do the same. I blame us for rewarding their crimes. When they get here, they are provided for and still have money left over to send back home along with the message: Come on over! Bring the kids!
     
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    Well, then not 100% of illegal immigrants commit crimes. The ones Democrats have been trying to save (DACA) didn't commit a crime at all when they were brought here. The rest have committed a crime (illegally coming here), but then so does any driver on the road who goes over the speed limit, which is pretty much all of us. Unless you're talking about a serious crime, the label "criminal" is pretty meaningless. The Republican talking point during the Mueller probe was the average American commits three crimes before breakfast (or something like that).
     
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    What part of illegal don't you understand?
     
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    I am not a republican and my position is the result of growing up in a gang-infested neighborhood. These children are also frequent victims of gang violence and many end up joining gangs. I hope you never know what it is like to have your life threatened.

    For young females being transported illegally, it is almost guaranteed they will be raped. While I feel for those struggling to support their families, those living south of our border are still better off than much of the world. Americans who have a genuine concern can send financial aid anywhere in the world. Are the lives of children less valuable if there is an ocean in between?

    BTW, the average American does commit several federal crimes on a daily basis. There are more laws on the books that you can read if you live to be 1000 years old. We imprison more of our population than the rest of the world. Republicans want to continue imprisoning people for having pot, so it doesn't look like they are on the side of limiting the influence of our overreaching justice system.
     
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    Perhaps its time to take a page out of Bill Clinton's playbook, and send these asylum seekers to Gitmo, like the Haitians and Cubans were sent back in the early 90's. If they don't meet the asylum requirements they could be released to the Cubans...
     
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    Our welfare clause is General and we have a Commerce Clause in particular.

    Only lousy capitalists cannot generate more capital, in That case.

    Promoting the General welfare means ending the prohibition of an immigration clause. We have a naturalization clause for a reason.

    Upgrading Ellis Island and surrounding infrastructure could be accomplished in a much more market friendly manner than any black market can ever hope to accomplish. We should have no illegal problem with a naturalization clause simply Because all foreign nationals subject to US jurisdiction must have a federal id.

    Can it be, merely right wing bigotry that causes the right wing to eschew Capitalism at every opportunity.
     
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    Kevin Washington, psychologist: The position that he (Trump) is taking is consistent with a person who has an extremely narcissistic way of relating in the world. Initially, he wanted Nielson to make decisions that he appeared hesitant to take. Self-serving individuals will sacrifice others in order to make themselves look good. Nielson resists, then it becomes convenient to say he wants to be tougher on the border patrol efforts as he is seeking to gain support for the building of a wall. The wall is a physical manifestation of global white supremacy ideology.
     
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    Thats general welfare not wiping the nose of lazy people who refuse to work
     
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    It's not just central America, they are heading here from all over the world.
     
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    Kevin washington should have studied civics before opening his mouth

    The wall along with other measures along the border is to preserve our nationa sovereignty
     
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    in other words, you are merely upset anybody has natural rights?
     
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    the point is, anyone who shows up at Ellis Island could be processed more efficiently in modern times. Once they have a federal id.; they are foreign nationals visiting the US.

    Tourism is the first, second, or third largest employer in twenty-nine States.

    We have a Commerce Clause in particular, and;

    our welfare clause is General.
     
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    There is no natural right to sit on your butt while other people work to support you
     
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    why do you believe there isn't?
     
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    there is no right to have nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously.
     
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    A nanny state?
     
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    let's abolish our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.
     

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