Juneteenth… Quite possibly the dumbest holiday in the United States

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  1. ToughTalk

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    So youre saying that it's gonna take what? another 2-3 generations for black culture to understand the moral value of right and wrong actions in society? and then learn to control their negative impulses?

    Ya...I'm going to say no thanks. We've gone in the opposite direction this past 10 years and I'm just going to hold black culture accountable for it's own piss poor ideals. Like hugging the N word. That's a stupid ideology. There is no value to it. You don't look clever saying it. It still retains it's racial aspects and perpetuating it because you think nobody else but black people say the word...is both ignorant and destructive.

    Prominent black role models should be pushing to end the use if the N word. People like Oprah, Obama or Whoopee...Lebron. That's just one example.
     
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    Based on what? Where's the data that says less crime in rural areas?

    That could be true, less people in rural areas, but is the rate of crime per population of an area different?
     
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    Understand it? 1st they have to recognize it.
    How are they to recover from the blatant discrimination they've endured for 250 yrs?
    And how long will it take to recover from that?

    Nothing will change, IMO, if they can't raise the education level.
     
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    /https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/...work/Fact_Sheets/2017NCVRW_UrbanRural_508.pdf

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    This data is 10 years old but considering the huge gap between the two. This is per 1000 households which means per capita and it involves all crime, not just violent crime. It is victimization.
     
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    Ya I reject all of that as some nonsensical excuse to hand wave poor social behavior, **** life choices and violent tendencies.

    Moral values start at birth and are developed through good parenting as a start. The understanding of right and wrong is inherent. You know it's wrong to kick someone in the head. Nobody has to teach you that and 250+ years of not being right or wronged in past generations has nothing to do with that. You either are a part of society or you chose to rebel against society. If you chose to go against society, then you get called out and punished.
     
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    I love National Gun Day.
     
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    So, some people are violent so we shouldn't celebrate the end of slavery? Solid reasoning.
     
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    Then you either haven't paid attention and not asked around or you don't want to.
     
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    Post #1030, and what I meant to post was "you, broksi?" but it was a typo.
     
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    One issue with this, aside from it being 10 years old is that urban and suburban in those charts don't seem to have that big a difference.
     
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    You probably could find a lot of those if you're just looking for black people in videos.
     
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    They just pop up because there are so many :) Don’t even have to look. You can search and search for white mobs robbing stores and you’ll mostly end up with old film footage probably. Not saying white people aren’t looting. But it’s NOT the same as large mobs of ALL black people looting and robbing stores daily. Check that. It’s not robbery anymore. GO GO California:) But you go ahead and ignore realty. You be you.
     
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    In related news, Mark Dice was discussing the new crime stats today and the fact that the Black population's share of all murderers increased from 50% to 60%. Everything I have seen by the MSM and Democrats in the past few years seems targeted to increase the black murder rate. Grats to them on their success I guess. I wonder what their target is. Could it be 90%?

    Always remember that crime drives poverty. Blacks are going to be very much poorer in these crime riddled hell holes due to the government not stopping them from burning down critical infrastructure and from prosecutors not stopping shop lifters from looting out the businesses that remained. At this point, it is obviously purposeful. Their policies are specifically intended to create crime, poverty and unrest so that politicians can point their fingers at white middle class suburbanites and blame them for their failure.
     
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    Do they actually pop up or do you just type in "black people being bad" and go from there because a lot of posters here including you are giving me a vibe that you intentionally look for that stuff.
     
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    It's funny how you can point out obvious things like this to progressives and they'll just sit there and deny it and deny it and deny it.

    According to them blacks as a whole are, just as well behaved as anyone in society and don't commit any more crime than anyone else does.
     
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    You don’t have to put in “BLACK” at all. Just type in stores being looted or robbed and just look at the faces. I’m sorry you live in a state of total denial and ignorance. If there were loads of white people looting stores constantly you’d see it. They’re not.

    But like other posters have stated, you probably think crime statistics are evenly distributed by race:) Or you think the NBA has equal representation while the NHL is racist:)
     
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    That's the 4th of July..... Another holiday bought to you courtesy of armed Americans
     
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    UMM, no. Guys didn't put their brown besses down and draw up the Declaration of Independence,
     
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    The event which ultimately led to taking up arms because evidently Great Britain did not take too kindly to this declaration of independence thing
     
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    What's wrong with discussing CRT, its ideas or impact? If I was teaching history ten years from now and the class was examining the 2022 election, it would be appropriate to look at the tenets of CRT as part of examining what the sides were arguing about.
    Hearing about these ideas is not the same thing as being taught them as fact. How are we supposed to study history and government if we aren't allowed to discuss controversial ideas?
    What does "taught" mean? Were students told these claims are fact? If they were, it's brainwashing, as is telling students the U.S. is the "greatest country in the world" and that we're exceptional.
    Edu-babble. CRT is a set of ideas that are either correct or incorrect.
    Rustin is an idiot.
    Let's day Rustin is a "live one" who says teachers must present CRT to students. The vast majority of history teachers might present CRT as a set of ideas held by some people, but they won't tell students those ideas are fact. Teachers you're smearing are your best guarantee against student brainwashing.
    This sort of BS is precisely why teachers join a union--to protect them against harassment by management that wants them to "teach" (inculcate) a particular set of ideas.
    My white wife moved every three years as a child because her father was in the USAF. She laughed at the idea she was "privileged" as a military brat. She always bunked with her sister, too.

    How about these white kids? How many privilege boxes can they check?

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    Doubling down again? You're telling someone who taught American history what goes on in school history classes. :lol: :lol:
     
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    Well we've just pivoted from "it's not being taught" to "what's wrong with it being taught?"

    Because painting WHITE people as privileged oppressors and BLACK people as perpetual victims is asinine, divisive destructive and regressive. Parents do not want it. They are fighting back against it, and they will vote in politicians who will remove this nonsense from our schools.

    I was taught history without having to play a "how privileged am I?" bingo game!

    Ironically enough, the supreme court just struck down the ONLY systemic racism still alive today in America! And trust me when I say this CRT bullshit that you don't think is being taught but I have just shown you that both students and teachers have admitted as such.
     
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    Good for you. What you reject means nothing but to you.
     
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    It's examined, not "taught."
    Rightwing nonsense. You can't point to a K-12 public school state curriculum that promotes CRT.

    Your rightwing friends started off saying white kids are being told they should be ashamed of being white. This claim was withdrawn, but it had already served as a dog whistle for bigots. Now, they're saying schools are "teaching" CRT as another dog whistle. Apparently, we're supposed to teach history without mentioning CRT, a Marxist spin on race few share.
    My students were researching and presenting arguments for their views.
    This is a proposition you can't possibly hope to defend.
    Studying CRT is not being "taught" it. We look at Marxism, but we don't endorse it.

    There are 100k K-12 schools in the U.S. and 4m teachers. Sure as hell...

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    ... but that doesn't mean we have CRT promoted in schools generally.
     
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    Taught.

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    See it says the word in the study... ^

    So we are going to insure that this **** get NOT TAUGHT in public schools. We can go back to not being racist and simply teach history!

    We don't need no privileged bingo card games that single out straight white people.

    Sound good?

    And if we are being honest, now that affirmative action crutch has been rightfully removed...and everything is about merit again (thank god!) we should probably not bother wasting time with any of this ****. As it doesn't get us anywhere.

    I'm looking over at China and Japan's average IQ score and I gotta say...it doesn't appear to be the case that they are missing out on their lack of CRT nonsense in schools.
     
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    There's no exit door on the rightwing lies about K-12 public schools. You should wear them.

    Teachers are not promoting Marxist ideology.

    Racism is still with us.

    Conservatives are still trying to gut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

    We have a problem that isn't going away...

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    Many older workers are falling out of the lower- and middle class into poverty.

    Home prices are putting housing--mortgages and rent--out of reach.

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    We have a massive wealth transfer from have nots to haves, young to old.

    Your pal, Trump, gave 85% of the 2017 tax cut to people making $400k per year. He also tried to gut Obamacare subsidies for healthcare insurance. His economic growth in his first three years was almost identical to Obama's last three years.

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    DeSantis is your boy, but his state is 49th in teacher pay. Florida home prices went up 40% in 2021-22 and Florida now has a huge teacher shortage.

    When are you going to do something besides support the party screwing workers?
     
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