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  1. US Conservative

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    Nope you are just living in a world of discredited marxist dogma.
     
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    ""Nuh uh" is a rebuttal fit only for "tag, youre it! '
     
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    Marxism is kaput bro. Has been for some time.
     
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    The 90s was the death of Marxism-Leninism. I'm a Marxist in the same way that mathematicians are pythagoreans: he was step one. Libertarian socialists who take from Marx have been recovering steadily
     
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    Maybe he still hasn't gotten over us whipping up on that German butt yet? Guess while they were still wasting all that time relating to each with all those big fat words we were firing away? :machinegun:German people lost their minds and their homeland, like we are doing now. :(
    "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain." :)
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    I'd argue that libertarian capitalism is the contradiction.
     
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    I'm sure you would...
     
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    Cmon, take me up on that. Ask questions, I want to get to the core of the difference in how we understand the worsd libertarian and capitalism.

    Despite my very caustic, jaded irony-poisoned demeanor I'm fine with opening philosophical dialogues about the way we see things as long as we're not going "nuh uh" "yes huh" or arguing over things that just shouldn't be arguments (like whether or not genocide is acceptable).

    I liek talking about what I really believe and having other people talk to me about what they really believe, I just get frustrated really quickly with people who want to engage on more irritating grounds or people who are so aggressive about their social conservatism, since as a bisexual man I tend to get exhausted and angry quickly when trying to convince someone that my sexuality doesn't make me inferior.
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    The truth is, I'm just not interested. I've been down this road with others who claim to be Socialist Libertarians so I understand what the goal is, it's to try to virtue signal to everyone, and avoid taking sides on any possible public policy goal in which you might be found wrong. It's really the ultimate "Don't blame me, I voted for..." bumpersticker I think if you really want to discuss your "philosophy" you should start a thread to discuss it.
     
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    I think you're mistaking a genuine opposition to the state for a refusal to have opinions. When you put everything in terms of what states should do or what corporations should do, of course people who don't want those things to exist aren't going to give you a response you understand.
     
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    Well what does this mean? More refugees or less refugees? Germans are not having babies so it will be muslim ruled in a couple years anyway no matter what they do. Sad!
     
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    Did you make your thread yet?
     
  16. Caligula

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    Well, you obviously don't know too much about German society and the way you simplify things until there's nothing left but superficial nonsense tells me you're probably not even interested in this.
    Germans haven't lost their homeland and Germans not having babies is false too. But I shouldn't be surprised here.
    I'm not sure why it seems to be impossible for you yanks to understand at least the most fundamental basics of other countries instead of falling for ridiculous bumper sticker wisdom over and over again.
    Let me take your second post seriously for a minute:
    Less refugees: the massive influx from 2015 was a temporary influx, it's not an ongoing process, this obviously hasn't gotten through to the new world yet. The government has been deporting people for more than a year, usually in small numbers but deporting nonetheless. The numbers of new arrivals have dropped considerably.
    Germany has a very low birthrate (in 2015: 1,5 per woman, US: 1,84. Japan: 1,46.), this is different to "no babies." I know this is usually a concept too complicated for people from the new world.
    Germany has been the migration destination no.2 in the world for more than a decade with the vast majority of people coming to Germany from other EU countries (around 450,000 per year). 5,7% of the population are Muslims, let that sink in: 5,7%.
    It doesn't hurt to look at some basic facts.
     
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    Well I do like the info because i proves my point. I'm an old woman so it won't be me ruled over by those who hate me very long. Who I feel sorry for is the young.
    We have been killing each for a long time now. Who needs enemies when the biggest threat to euro's are other euro's. WW1 WW!! and now inside civil wars.
    Who is behind this is anybodys guess. Somebody is penning us against each other behind the scenes.
    When I want to kill fire ants I will take one shovel full of one mound and put it on the other mound and vice versa, they go after each other and save me the application of poisons. The survivors move away.
     
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    Sorry, but I don't see that the fact that 5,7% of the population in Germany proves your point that the country will be ruled by Muslims in a couple of years. I live in continental Europe and there is no civil war. Where do you people get that from? Is Las Vegas in the midst of a civil war? I don't think so.
     
  19. Guess Who

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    To have a name like Caligula you sure are not too up on history. Plus your in another part of the world on a suicide mission so lets just agree not to agree.
     
  20. Caligula

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    Well, that was clear from the get go in my book. I live in the place in question and for some reason I think I know much better what's going on here than someone who lives 6,000-7,000 miles away and gets their news from the US media or s president who invents countries that don't exist. But this is a common problem with almost all yanks on this forum. They don't know that they don't know and seriously think they know much better than people who actually live in said countries. Why? Because they've read or heard it somewhere.
    That ad hominem is pretty cheap and that assumption is rather childish IMO. I'm fully aware of the historical figure and also what Suetonius and Tacitus say about him.
     
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    I could say the same thing about you. Only difference is I'm aware of this fact and you seem to be in denial.
     
  22. Caligula

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    You seriously think you have better expertise regarding European policies than someone who lives here?
     
  23. Lil Mike

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    That's a debatable point, but it's pretty common on this forum for Europeans, Canadians, and Australians to think they know better how US domestic policy should be ordered than the people who actually live in the US.
     
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    And the other way around (big time IMO).
     
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    And we tell others how they should live like Viet nam..like Iraq.
     

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