Just remember, all of this unfair, unconsitutional stuff the left is doing

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  1. DaveBN

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    I’ve shown you multiple times.

    The FBI seized the documents with a signed warrant for their seizure. This wouldn’t have happened if the documents were declassified.

    Neither he nor you have (can?) provide evidence to support the affirmative claim that the documents were declassified.

    You again are asking me to prove a negative. I’m not sure if you understand why that’s a problem or if you’re intentionally using weasely tactics. Thoughts?
     
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    You realize that you're simply arguing a fallacy right? If, as the president said, the contents of his collection were public, the stampings on folders or files wouldn't still matter, or do you not understand this? There is zero credible evidence that supports the contention you're making here. none.
     
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    The president saying the documents are public isn’t the end all be all of declassification.

    Could Trump have waved his magic wand and declassified every thing pertaining to America’s nuclear weapons programs? Just said so? Do you think anyone else might be involved?
     
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    Release the affidavit and we will find out.

    They were there in June? They did not need to raid it in June... why did they not take them then? So it was not an urgent national security matter if they wait for 18 months and Garland waits 3 days after signing it... and they did not go for documents, they went for "any and all" that they could grab... it was a broad general warrant...
    This was a "Find me the man, I'll find you the crime"... no way around it.. Your FBI is as corrupt as they come...
     
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    Please prove he had documents of "America’s nuclear weapons programs"... and please don't site a fake CNN and their "according to people familiar with the investigation." to waste our time... Remember... the FBI/DOJ does not comment on ongoing investigations... so any thing out there right now can not be verified..
     
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    No it doesn't
     
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    Does it feel weird to be so certain about the facts with so little information?
     
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    Please quote where I said he did. Thank you.
     
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    i am not satisfied with the status quo, but have no desire to go backward.

    so, after aging the documents in his pool shed, where no one but mara a lago members, guests, and servants (many of them illegal) could see them, trump was planning to publish "the us government secrets?"
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    You’re quoting a post that was discussing presidential powers of declassification. I get how that may have been confusing if you weren’t aware of the context for those post, but you should maybe follow the chain before making criticisms. It might save you from having egg on your face in the future.
     
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    There your words... you own them...

    Please prove he had documents of "America’s nuclear weapons programs".
     
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    The truth never matters in the midst of calamitous events - such as the collapse of a nation.

    The Establishment created these conditions and they will continue to press their advantage until America is destroyed.

    For my fellow conservatives, libertarians, and patriotic Americans - we will all eventually be identified and targetted by the government.

    In case you haven't noticed - Democrats are above the law, and anyone deemed in opposition to the political machine is being systematically attacked. It's only going to get worse.
     
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    I’m really sorry you’re so confused right now. I’m not going to defend a claim I didn’t make.

    If you’d like to understand, then work your way through the conversation. Or don’t. I don’t really care.
     
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    ""The president saying the documents are public isn’t the end all be all of declassification. Could Trump have waved his magic wand and declassified every thing pertaining to America’s nuclear weapons programs? Just said so? Do you think anyone else might be involved?""
    They are your words nobody else's......
     
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    And nothing in there about trump possessing nuclear documents. Sorry.
     
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    Hell, if Democrats have broken the law, I have ZERO problems with them joining Trump in a cell.
    Why doesn't that bother me? Because I don't belong to a ****ing cult, that's why.
     
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    If you can't figure out the differences between a congressional committee investigation and a court trial I want to sell you one.
     
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    Congrats!
    You sure have your Trumpese lingo down.

    :roflol:
     
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    So how did the person who called in the FBI on this know they were classified unless they still had classified markings (which are removed
    when a document is declassified)? At the very least, Trump ignored protocol for declassification. He was sloppy. Again.
     
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    According to what the judge said today at the hearing there was more than one person who contacted the FBI about Trump having more classified/unclassified documents at Mar a Largo after they supposedly handed them all over to the FBI.
     
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    Hyperbole or snark? Hard to tell. Neither addresses the issue.
     
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    LOL.. golly, it sounds so definitive... You believe in the regulatory state, the nanny state, AGW, socialism.. but no.. you don't belong to a cult... LMAO...
     
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    Ah.... because in your mind, congress are the ultimate lashers... got it.
     
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    How would a person who say finds unexploded ordinance on a beach know to call the local bomb squad.. You're asking a banal question on purpose to mask your inability to defend the horrible actions of the Garland regime...
     

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