"Justice Thomas: SCOTUS should reconsider contraception"

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    We've been told for decades that abortion is only a very small part of Planned Parenthood's business, yet, all these Planned Parenthoods are promptly closing up shop after Dobbs. Weird!
     
  2. doombug

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    Man, the pro-abortion folks really took a beating in this thread.
     
  3. Bush Lawyer

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    I have no idea what exposure you have had to legal judgements and decision making but I can guarantee you that on any issue you can think of, I could write a reasoned judgement, citing precedent, deciding that issue in two conflicting ways.

    If you need proof of that in the real World, take notice of the zillions of occasions there are dissenting judgements on the same matter. Point is, Justices can push their own social moral ideology and dress it up in legal precedent, making it look jurisprudential.
     
  4. Curious Always

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    Yes, keeping women as chattel is a real winner for the anti freedom crowd.
     
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    Again, I will point out, though it seems an ever more pointless exercise, that, then, the equivalent behavior which would validate your own point, would be: If Democratic politicians (which is what you'd meant to imply by your unclear label, of simply "Democrats") were running around, performing abortions, you'd have a valid, non- hypocritical, point.

    Your own assessment should then be applied, here; namely: They aren't, so you don't.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the NRA supported criminals committing crime you'd have a point.

    They don't, so neither do you.
     
  7. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Non sequitur.
     
  8. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the contrary.

    Democrats profit from abortion clinics.

    NRA does not benefit from criminals.

    Please continue with your failed analogous attempts though, it amuses me.
     
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    I have already explained your argument to be specious. Democrats do not 'profit from abortion clinics." As I think you have already redefined yourself (and have not produced a source to support your suggesting of a direct link), Dem. Congressmen (and women) get campaign contributions, from abortion provider Planned Parenthood. You actually did not even produce proof of that. While I am willing to accept that this is true, I would doubt that the amount of this is outsized, in scale, especially as compared to how much that both they, and Republicans, receive from other interests.

    Regardless, this connection does not produce a chain of responsibility for all of PPs
    legal actions, and beliefs. This is just too ludicrous, to say that accepting a contribution means that one endorses all beliefs, and actions, of the contributor. Again, if I weren't discussing this with a hypocrite, you would realize all the liabilities, to which this rule of yours, would open up Republicans. But you opt to only apply it, when Dems are involved.

    The NRA benefits from Gun manufacturers, doing well. And they do well, as a result of crime and, especially due to gun crime. Then, Republicans (politicians, that is), absolutely benefit," from the NRA. So they "benefit," from gun crime, as much (or as little) as Democratic politicians benefit from any activity of Planned Parenthood. As I also, already asserted, most Dem politicians are highly- supportive of P.P.'s mission, promoting womens' health, and the exercise of their freedom in control over their own bodies, and choices, regarding birth control, & reproductive options.
     
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    Comparing abortion to slavery is disgusting.
     
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    Forcing a woman to be an incubator against her will is slavery.
     
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    Except I've shown it's not specious at all. They directly benefit monetarily from the abortion industry.

    I'm not here to try and convince you, that's impossible because even if you see it, you will dismiss it. That's obvious because the information regarding PP's political dontations are EASILY sourced, and you have no intention of looking for the truth.

    The bottom line is, you don't want the truth.

    Women do have freedom to control their own bodies and choices regarding birth control. That's how they experienced the consequence of pregnancy. Killing a child isn't birth control.

    The NRA, on the other hand, supports the rights of law-abiding citizens to own firearms for self-defense of themselves, their families, etc. NRA political contributions pale in comparison to those of the abortion industry.

    Your cognitive dissonance on the subject will be obvious when you try to answer this question:

    How does the NRA, conservative politicians, or gun manufacturers benefit from criminals using firearms for illegal purposes?
     
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    Nobody forced her to get pregnant.

    Sleeping with people that she wouldn't want to have a child with and not using contraception, or requiring the usage of contraception, did that.
     
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    Yet another failed analogy, since conservative politicians aren't running around using guns illegally either.

    How big the font or how much you bold things isn't helping you.
     
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    since we have learned nothing new in science and medicine since the mid 1700s we should defer to the founders views
     

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