Kavanaugh vs Dr. Ford Testimony. The lies...

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  1. Lesh

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    A sworn statement based on memory. So what happens when McClean signs a sworn statement that says it isn't true?

    Nothing?

    So much for that
     
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    The game plan for the democrats was delay, delay, delay. Try to get the confirmation past November 6th.
    I was interested in whether he lied. Under oath or not.
    The same as with Kavanaugh, I was interested in whether she lied, Under oath or not.
     
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    So you think I believe Kavanaugh despite the fact that I have proven that he lied. The Trump Cult faith is a potent drug. .
     
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    If you're going to jump in into a discussion, making sure you read the context will help you avoid ending up looking foolish.
     
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    So Kavanaugh, joins the new majority of ORIGINALISTS who do NOT interpret but UPHOLD legislation enacted by (R) and (D) majorities in congress ... and that's a DISASTER? :roflol:
     
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    A 3 day delay? Originally she asked to delay it for a week. So in your calendar that would take it over November 6?

    Uhmm.. I would get a new calendar, if I were you.

    So now we know he did. And he did so under oath. And.... ?

    So now we know that she didn't. Under oath nor otherwise. And....?

    Ok. It's time you stop playing this game and start being honest: It;s obvious it makes absolutely no difference to you. None whatsoever.
     
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    That does not mean that would be the only delay she would try to get.
    The so called lies are a bit flimsy at best.
    I am being honest. I honestly don't know who is right and who is wrong. If you claim you do, then you are the one who is not being honest.
     
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    Laughable attempt at self preservation not only did you not prove Kavanaugh lied because your opening premise assumes that Ford's beliefs were accurate with out the bother of actually proving they were.
     
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    You desperately grasp at straws in absence of arguments. It's too obvious to take you seriously.

    You were unable to produce a quote of any lies by her, while I did demonstrated lies from him. And that's all I need to prove my point.
     
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    Oh give it a rest it is patently clear the Dems were trying to delay at least till after the midterms that was the only reason to delay exposing Ford's vacuous charges to the clear light of day until the vote was ready to be taken. And please Ford does not have to be lying. Nor does Kavanaugh. IN the case of Ford people believe all sorts of stuff that is patently ridiculous such isn't even all that uncommon.

    The fact that they failed in their over all objective is scarcely evidence that they weren't tryng too.
     
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    Then, you have an option. Don't take me serious. Not a problem.
    She said she was afraid of flying. She flew on a regular basis. She said she was claustrophobic because of the assault, but lived in a small apartment with only one door.
     
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    Sure.... And if you want an example all you have to do is talk to a Trump loyalist. They believe that believe that Mexico will pay for a wall, or that the wall will ever be built. And that Trump will lock up Hillary, and that Trump made his fortune legally and that what they hear and see with their own eyes is not what's happening....

    Except Dr. Ford never came across as being like any of the nuts who would believe things like that.
     
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    Most if not all 9/11 Truthers were likely Democrats. Mostly we don't care who pays for the wall as long as it gets built. Never thought Trump would lock Hillary. I'm still waiting for proof that he didn't earn his fortune legally.
     
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    And you never answered the question: where in the world did you get this absurd idea that people who are afraid of flying don't fly? Or that people with claustrophobia can't live in a small apartment?

    And you won't answer, because trying to respond to that would mean questioning your dogma. You heard it on wingnut media, you repeat it, and youi feel your job is done. Never even dreaming of questioning it.

    Pathetic!
     
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    She couldn't fly on Monday because she said she was scared of flying. She flew to the polygraph exam. She flew elsewhere. She is very selective in her being scared of flying.

    It appears that you are afraid to question anything. I admitted I don't believe or disbelieve. You believe only what you want to believe.
     
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    Do you know why I always claim that conservative rhetoric is less than honest? I have a dictionary in my house that was published by Merriam-Webster in1961. Under gay, one of the definitions is : homosexual.
     
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    Do you know why I always claim that progressive rhetoric is less than honest? Because rather than discuss the point, they split hairs in order to run from it.
     
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    In the early 1980s, I worked and occasionally traveled with a lady whose first name was Gay. I don't remember thinking it was unusual. That was just her name. I guess she was born in the late 1960s. I was curious about usage of the word and found this.
    "The term's use as a reference to homosexuality may date as early as the late 19th century, but its use gradually increased in the 20th century. In modern English, gay has come to be used as an adjective, and as a noun, referring to the peopleand the practices and cultures associated with homosexuality. In the 1960s, gay became the word favored by homosexual men to describe their sexual orientation.[3] By the end of the 20th century, the word gay was recommended by major LGBT groups and style guides to describe people attracted to members of the same sex."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay

    One of our trips turned out to be one of the most memorable. We rented a car to drive to an airport about a hundred miles away. The car quit on us about twenty miles from the airport. We were able to notify the rental company, get a taxi and still catch our airline flight. No particular significance, but this is the thing I think of when I remember her.
     
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    Actually I was getting to the meat and potatoes of the issue at hand. You are trying to blow off terms crybaby Kavanaugh used, as perhaps other than they are normally used. In the right-wing spin, the effort is to say that the meaning of slang terms changes over time. A common example given, and the reason it is so common is because most conservatives are reading off of the same play sheet, is the idea that 35 years ago "gay" was not used to describe homosexuals. Gay has been used to describe homosexuals for hundreds of years.

    It goes to the heart of right-wing rhetoric. It just makes up things to fit the narrative, irregardless of the truthfulness, as is demonstrated above.
     
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    No, you were splitting hairs because you can't defend the point.

    That's a common theme on the left. That's why followers have to chant back instructions to protest leaders. Those leaders apparently know the crowd is too stupid to absorb complex concepts like, lets go over there.
     
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    My first girlfriend's name was Gayla but everyone called her Gay. I sometimes joke that my first girlfriend was Gay. Some people have weird reactions, not realizing the word play.
     
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    Is this your default position, insult and attack. You got caught spreading untruthful conservative rhetoric. You can't defend it, so you call others stupid?


    What is it that Republicans are hiding? They blocked the Democratic Senators from seeing the documents concerning crybaby Kavanaugh's time in the Bush cabal. And they cut short an FBI investigation, even though dozens of people, who knew Kavanaugh were never interviewed.


    Crybaby Kavanaugh originally tried to paint himself as clean and wholesome, hiding his drinking. Then it came out. By now, with so many people coming forward, it is quite evident Brett Kavanaugh spent his youth, at times wobbly legged drunk. He drank so much he puked on a regular basis. He even got into drunken brawls.

    This, on its own isn't all that bad. After all, I did spend my youth, hitting the party circuit, except my girlfriends were willing, and not for the whole room.

    What is bad is that he lied about it. And then once he got caught, he acted in a very conservative manner, he blamed others. He cried, he sniffled, he annoyingly rolled his tongue inside his mouth, deforming his face, he hyperventilated, he cried some more, he became beligerant and aggressive.

    If he had manned up, when the allegations first came out, and made a statement about being young and immature, and sorry for any pain he caused. And then go on to say he has overcome the errors of his past and has grown into an upright man. Something like that, even if it is just BS, would have caused the whole thing to blow over.

    Instead we got the conservative mob all in an uproar, over fears of being falsely accused of sexual misconduct. It does not help my low opinion of conservative thought.


    Let us not forget that crybaby Kavanaugh was originally made a judge, as a reward, for being a good little Republican operative.

    He also lied about how he got into Yale.

    Then, conservative rhetoric rides to the rescue with a whole pile of misinformation.
     
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    LOL

    I can identify with the concept of low opinions. I must admit, having seen what the mobs of paid protesters did, along with the Democratic Party Senators in Congress and on the JC, I hadn't set the bar low enough.

    Publicly showing their hate for the foundational concepts of the Constitution was a surprise to me. I get politics, it's a dirty business. But typically, they are far more clandestine with that objective.

    In the end, the Progs simply blew it. All the fake victims and false accusations. Another run at destroy those who don't bow to the collective.

    One thing that stood out though. Treating Dr. Ford as a piece of meat. That was shocking. Hard to imagine a collective that claims to be protectors of women and women's rights, treat a survivor they way they did.

    It's that type of thing that everyday Americans see. It's the kind of proof I absorb and draw conclusions from.

    The New Democratic Party has nothing to offer. If it did, it would be talking about those things. Instead, what are they running on heading to the mid-terms?

    Pretty easy to see.
     
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    Did I not already call you out for spreading untruthful conservative rhetoric?
     
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    LOL

    I'm not sure how to respond to your post here.

    It's actually rather clever.
     

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