Kushner cleared of seeking Russian money to pay real estate debt

Why don't you take a stab at answering my post #20?? I posted the WaPo article in post #14... tell me where they have anything in that article incorrect??

 

Well too bad you weren't on the Mueller team. I'm sure you would have indicted Kushner for being a bad businessman or carrying a debt just like thousands of other businesses do.

 

The WE article is wrong because they falsely represented what the Mueller Report says about Kushners Real Estate dealings.

The WaPo article is not wrong because nothing in the Mueller Report says anything in the WaPo article is wrong.

I seemed to have to show YOU the section in the Mueller Report that the Kushner dealings were already under scrutiny before his meeting with the bank guy

Ridiculous arguing with 12 year olds... Have a good one.

 

When you get called out for making up more Trumpsters BS, this is all you’ve got left.

Indeed, this really is, all you’ve got left.

You’re not going to read the report. You’re going to wait for the man in your AM radio to tell you what to believe. You’re already parroting weak spin from trashy blogs.

 

I read the WaPo article that seems to have all of their panties in a twist... Yes, it mentions the meetings that Kushner had with Kislyak and this bank guy while his property was in deep doo doo and only 1 month after the election.... Yes, it mentions that Mueller was looking into it.

Then I read pages 161-163 of the report, which this thread seems to claim clears Kushner of seeking Russian money, which it most certainly does not.

The gist of that section of the report is that the Kushner/Gorkov meeting didn't amount to anything. That means that Kushner likely didn't pursue getting money for his property during this meeting. OK... Super.... Does that mean that is the only opportunity Kushner has ever had to get Russian money?? Of course not....As you say, he pitched it to EVERYBODY.

The general obtuseness of some of these posters is astonishing, unless that is their goal....

 

I certainly would have looked into his efforts to peddle this deal to people connected with foreign governments, while serving in the capacity of Senior White House advisor.

We already know that his efforts raised so much concern over the obvious conflict of interest involved that they would not give him a security clearance.

But, I’ve always been more curious about his efforts to set up secret back channels between the White House and the Russian FSB, that had been so helpful in the last election....

But, you’re a Trumpster. Many of your ilk are trying to convince us that this sort of behavior is normal (even though not one of you can produce an single example in US history where any other Presidential candidate or campaign even thought of doing this crap).

 

They’re being obtuse for a reason.

The Mueller Report confirms and documents nearly all the major stories about the Trump/Russia scandal.

They know it too.

Which is why Fox mentions the report constantly without talking about what’s actually in it. Every once in a while, they have a news model or a Trump surrogate on to tut tut over a report on an item of content in the report. Generally, they are constructed to be deliberately misleading, as the OP in this thread illustrates.

Then there is the usual chorus of whatboutism, and the weakening cries over the investigation into the investigation. The Trump White House seems intent on beating that drum so it can try and make the next election about Clinton and Obama again!

Admittedly, their target audience is primed for it. After all, Rush Limbaugh and his type have fed them that same steady diet for thirty years.

 

I have the conclusion which is that trump did not collude with russia

If you cant prove that lie then libs got nuthin’

 

Why would he need to set up back channels when they were already colluding? Many of you Crooked Hillary-sters can never seems to square those conflicts in your stupid conspiracy theories.

 

So you continue with the farcical theory based solely on speculation because you heard somewhere he "pitched it to everybody"? Talk about obtuse!

 

Thank you for making my point. The report makes it very clear that it was not for lack of trying by Trump and his people, all throughout the election and well beyond. With the full knowledge that the Russians had essentially invaded the United States using cyber warfare as their weapon of choice.

Regardless of whether Trump is charged with a crime while he remains in office, he has clearly disgraced himself, betrayed his oath of office, and engaged in conduct that would be unworthy of ANY public official, anywhere, and in any party.

 

Canadian firm Brookfield Partners, which is largely owned by the Qatar Investment Authority, bailed the Kushner's out in mid 2018 on their $1.2 billion debt which was due in February 2019.This should be a direct conflict of interest with his White House job.The Russians were never considered to be involved in the deal,the Chinese were originally thought to possibly be a source of financing for this white elephant at 666 Fifth Ave but they bailed on the deal.Jared should have known better with that 666 address.Will be interesting to see if we do Qatar any government favors.

 

I think it was Professor Dershowitz who likened the Mueller report to a Rorschach Test, where while there are no actual prosecutable crimes, people, for partisan reasons, will see what they want to see in it.

 

I believe we already have.

Put this next to the intelligence community’s universal reluctance to approve a security clearance for Kushner, and his efforts to set up secret back channels between his father in law and the Russian FSB.........

 

I don’t really care what Deshowitz said. Most of the people who hang on his pronouncements on Trump TV didn’t even know who he was two years ago.

And reciting spin for an obvious criminal doesn’t build one’s standing in the legal community.

Of course, the rest of your post is false. The Report drips with evidence of criminal activity of all sorts. Mueller chose not to seek indictment, as he said, because of longstanding Justice Department policy. Not because of lack of evidence or lack of guilt.

The obstruction case makes itself, much of it was conducted out in the open, and there is plenty of evidence.

Whatever Mueller’s motivations were in asking for indictments, or not doing so, the innocence of Trump was not one of them.

Of course, like the rest of the Trumpsters, you’re not interested in being troubled with inconvenient facts. So, like the trash blog talk radio media you consume, you’re going to try and ignore the evidence as long as you can.

That’s what all of you are doing.

 

Looks as if all those anti-Trump 'Russia Connection' lies are being knocked down like skittles?

 

Uh huh

In your world trump tried to collude with putin to steal the election from hillary

but he was just too experienced to be successful at it

And damned if he didnt win anyway

Poor hillary

The reality is that Mueller tried to find criminal wrongdoing by trump but failed to do so

You got nothin’

 

Ego good grief why don't you just state what you think?
Did Kushner get help from Russia?
Did Kushner break the law?
Did Kushner collude with Russia?

Reading you're post are getting tougher and tougher because you're trying to point specific quotes in the mules report that proves what Mules concludes is wrong? It makes no damn sense.

 

Fair enough... I get to arguing with individuals over details they don't (or won't) understand and the chain gets lost.

Basically, I don't know the answers to any of your questions... wouldn't even attempt answers, although it was reported Kushner got 'foreign assistance' on his financing.... if it's true or who that was is unanswered, especially in the Mueller report.

So, I have no legal opinion on Kushner at all (and really only a slight personal one).

What chaps my bacon is threads like this using articles that misrepresent what the Mueller report says (or doesn't say) about certain things.... and people taking it like the gospel.

The Mueller report doesn't remotely clear Kushner of the thread title... it just says that it's unlikely that the Kushner meeting with the bank guy was about him seeking some financing... that's it... nothing more.