Kushner's "deal of the century" falls flat on it's face

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  1. Turin

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    Neither does Isreal. It goes both ways.
     
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    Shooting Palastinian children in the knee caps who stand near a fence and then laughing about it, takes away the moral high ground. Or walking up to one who is receiving medical attention and shooting them in the head at almost point blank range when they are offering up no hostility.

    There are no innocents in this conflict. Stop thinking there are.
     
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    It's what the Jews learn when they read their religion of hate how their God thinks about them and what he supports. Hence the Jew feels it's the right thing to thieve and steal away the real estate from non Jews. They made a poll in Israel and about half the country openly supports to ethnically cleanse all Arabs.
    You can not live in peace with people who ethnically cleanse you. Israel even refuses to acknowledge the UN decision to acknowledge their country. The Jew state is the most condemned nation on the planet because of their violent racist ways.
     
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    There is a difference between common policy vs individual actions.
    I am not suggesting a guilty side vs a innocent side. There is however a right side and a wrong side. That wrong side is not the Palestinian people but Hamas.
     
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    blame Allah and the Koran, they all say the Torah is God's word.
     
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    Zionistic lies
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musli...t#Administration_under_the_Rashidun_Caliphate

    The new rulers divided Syria into four districts (junds): Jund Dimashq (Damascus), Jund Hims, Jund al-Urdunn (Jordan), and Jund Filastin (Palestine) (to which a fifth, Jund Qinnasrin, was later added)[24] and the Arab garrisons were kept apart in camps, and life went on much as before for the local population.[1] The Muslims tolerated the Jews and Christians; indeed, Nestorian and Jacobite Christians were treated better under the Muslims than under the Byzantines.[1] The taxes instituted were the kharaj, which landowners and peasants paid according to the productivity of their fields, and the jizya, paid by non-Muslims in return for state protection and exemption from military service. The Byzantine civil service was retained until a new system could be instituted; therefore, Greek remained the administrative language in the new Muslim territories for over 50 years after the conquests.


    If the Jews would be like the Muslims back in the day... than Israel would have been at least half Arab half Israeli. But no. The Jews ran the Arabs of their real estate by the 100.000's. The Jews still are busy driving them off bit by bit. It's part of their religion of hate where their God even supports genocide to thieve the land of Canaan.
     
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    The Muslims let the Jews live on the land. The Jews do not, and thieved something like 90% of it.
     
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    According to the Quran, they switched sides during a war. And subsequently they were tried for high treason. They rioted against the Romans, and so were kicked out of Jerusalem. According to the bible, they are to blame for the death of Jesus. And so on. According to the Jews, they got the right to commit genocide to thieve the land of Israel. So it's not that they are persecuted because for the heck of it. They got a nasty history.
     
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    The Koran teaches the Arabs that they have a right to be protect themselves.
    The Torah teaches the Jews that they have a right to commit genocide.
     
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    that's a very dishonest and bigoted "understanding" of Jewish history.

    #1. The Jews had every moral and historical right to rebel against the Romans, who were brutal, unjust foreign occupiers.

    #2. even if some Jews betrayed Muhammed, who cares, he was a pedophile.

    #3. The Bible says Roman law and Roman executioners were responsible for Jesus' death.

    #4. The Torah says God commanded the Jews to massacre Canaan, and the Koran says the Torah is Allah's word.



    and yes, the Jews were persecuted over the last 2,000 years due to hate and ignorant bigotry.
     
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    and the Torah was given to the Jews by Allah, the Muslim God.

    the Koran says so.
     
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    so you're saying Allah, the Muslim God, supports genocide?

    huh
     
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    Jews are not dressing their children with TNT and forcing them to kill innocent people by blowing themselves up

    The palestinians want to kill and be killed
     
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    It was all fine until the Jews started to make trouble. Subsequently they were punished over it. The actions of the Jews provoked it, where they were left to be before.

    Muhammed cares. It was all fine until the Jews started to make trouble. Subsequently they were punished over it. The actions of the Jews provoked it, where they were left to be before.

    Nope. Pilate asked the Jews what to do, and washed his hands in innocence.

    The Torah teaches the Jew that the land of Canaan is their land, and they can commit genocide to thieve it.


    The above examples show they were not persecuted for the just because.
     
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    bullshit.

    an occupied people always have the moral right to rebel against foreign invaders/occupiers.

    the Romans were evil, brutal tyrants who were hated by most people they ruled over.

    funny how you think the Jews were wrong to reject Roman dominion.
     
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    the Koran says your Allah gave the Torah to the Jews
     
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    Rather sure I said that the Torah teaches the Jews that genocide is justified by their God.
     
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    do you also blame the Jews for the Holocaust?

    I wonder...
     
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    Allah says he gave the Torah to the Jews and freed them from Egypt
     
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    The Jews are teaching their children that according to their Torah, to commit genocide is justified by their God if that is what it takes to thieve the land of Canaan.
     
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    well blame Allah, he gave the Torah to the Jews.

    so says the Koran
     
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    It doesn't matter how you spin it,... Jews still believe that genocide is justified by their God.
     
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    Jews are not teaching genocide or practicing it
     
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    So you support the Palestinians moral right to rebel against the millions of Jews who came from abroad. Nice.
     
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    so do Muslims as they believe the Torah was given to the Jews by Alalalalalah
     
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