Kyiv:Ukrainian forces advance deep into Russian Defense lines in Kharkiv region.

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    It was meant to hold him accountable for his abuses of power. The damned RINO party short-circuited that process, however.

    More partisan claptrap on your part. Don't forget that several Republicans voted to impeach him both times, and stop generalizing about investigations when there are very different kinds of investigations into very different kinds of abuses and potential crimes involved.

    You and so many other people desperately need to work on thinking about politics objectively rather than allowing tribalism and other emotions to reign supreme.

    As for Trump allegedly being made stronger politically, he managed to lose after one term, something few presidents have managed, and that's after he scraped a win in 2016 with a minority of the popular vote with a ton of help from Russia.
     
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    Ukrainian army rapidly advancing: Dozens settlements liberated in Kharkiv, Luhansk, Kherson regions
     
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    Ukraine is no longer low on artillery ammo because Russia abandoned so much in recent retreats, report says
    Mia Jankowicz
    Thu, October 6, 2022 at 6:30 AM

    Ammunition left behind by fleeing Russian troops is filling Ukraine's depleted reserves and powering its counteroffensive, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

    Russia's hurried retreat from the Kharkiv region in early September involved troops abandoning hardware including tanks, other armored vehicles, and howitzers. They also left behind huge quantities of Soviet-caliber artillery shells, the paper reported.

    "The Russians no longer have a firepower advantage," an unnamed artillery officer told the paper. "We smashed up all their artillery units before launching the offensive, and then we started to move ahead so fast that they didn't even have time to fuel up and load their tanks. They just fled and left everything behind."

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-no-longer-low-artillery-113036690.html

    Thank you for your generous assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, @vis and @Destroyer of illusions :)
     
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    Try to find even one unqualified positive comment about either party in my posts. ;-)
    I have defended and praised Biden in spite of his many flaws, repeatedly.
    IMO, Trump should have left politics after the last election - I have made that clear here repeatedly.
    Partisans may not notice things like that. ;-)

    I agree with Adams.

    “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.” John Adams, The Works Of John Adams, Second President Of The United States, Books for Libraries Press, 1969.
     
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    You're throwing arguments at me that I find to be very partisan. I guess in this case you embrace them for whatever reason. Maybe too much reliance on Faux News? A strong personal bias to the right? Whatever the reason, I don't think you've been objective about Trump's abuses or the investigations, past and present, into his conduct. He is in trouble in New York over how his business has been managed. More than one of those under him have been brought to trial and were certainly not exonerated as a result of those proceedings.
     
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    My comments are consistently very anti-partisan. They may seem partisan to those who support either party.

    Neither party really deserves to win an election, but the DP will, IMO, actually deserve to win the next one if the Biden administration eliminates the Russian threat to the US and the world.

    Corrupt party pols are as corrupt party pols do.

    “Getting Rich has become the great bipartisan ideal: “No Democrats and Republicans in Washington anymore, only millionaires”, goes the maxim. The ultimate Green party. You still hear the term “public service” thrown around, but often with irony and full knowledge that “self-service” is now the real insider play.”
    THIS TOWN, Mark Leibovich, Penguin Books, 2013. p. 9.
     
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    The end is near.

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    Russia on verge of frontline collapse as Putin faces pressure to 'surrender 15,000
     
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    Trump provided the proof on himself at the Helsinki news conference when he did everything except dis down and actually kiss Putin’s butt.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russia’s use of Iranian-made drones is not generating asymmetric effects the way the Ukrainian use of US-provided HIMARS systems has done and is unlikely to affect the course of the war significantly.
    • The Wagner Private Military Company announced the creation of its own private Telegram channel on October 6, indicating that Wagner financier Yevgeny Prigozhin may want a voice that is clearly his own to compete with milbloggers and possibly Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov, who all have their own Telegram channels.
    • Ukrainian forces likely continued counteroffensive operations in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast near Kupyansk and operations to threaten Russian positions along the Kreminna-Svatove road in western Luhansk Oblast on October 6.
    • Russian troops are likely establishing defensive positions in upper Kherson Oblast following the collapse of the Russian line in northeast Kherson.
    • Russian troops continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast on October 6 and likely made incremental gains around Bakhmut.
    • Russian forces continued to conduct routine artillery, air, and missile strikes west of Hulyaipole, and in Dnipropetrovsk and Mykolaiv Oblasts on October 6.
    • Local Russian officials appear to be frantically looking for ways to fund their mobilized units as the Kremlin increasingly expects local administrations to pay for the war effort from their own budgets.
    • The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on October 6 that Russian forces began the forced mobilization of Ukrainian citizens in Russian-occupied Kremmina and Starobilsk, Luhansk Oblast. . . .
    Ukrainian forces likely continued counteroffensive operations in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast near Kupyansk on October 6. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces repelled “up to three [Ukrainian] battalion tactical groups [sic]” as they attempted to advance towards Pershotravneve (20km northeast of Kupyansk), Kyslivka (23km southeast of Kupyansk), and Berestove (30km northeast of Kupyansk).[5] Geolocated footage also shows Ukrainian troops in Hlushkivka, 14km southeast of Kupyansk, indicating that Ukrainian troops are continuing to make eastward gains around Kupyansk.[6] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces are attempting to extend the counteroffensive pocket around Kupyansk northeast towards Vilshana and east towards Orlianka (22km east of Kupyansk) and that Ukrainian troops are sending reinforcements to this pocket.[7] The deputy chief of the Main Operational Department of the Ukrainian General Staff, Brigadier General Oleksiy Hromov, reported that Russian troops are attempting to slow Ukrainian advances in the Kupyansk-Svatove direction, suggesting that Russian troops around Kupyansk are concerned that Ukrainians will use positions in this area to threaten Svatove from the northwest.[8]

    Ukrainian troops likely continued counteroffensive operations to threaten Russian positions along the Kreminna-Svatove road in western Luhansk Oblast on October 6. Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) Ambassador to Russia Rodion Miroshnik claimed that over 10,000 Ukrainian troops have amassed west of Kreminna, and that Russian forces have largely lost contact with Svatove and Kreminna.[9] Several Russian sources stated that Ukrainian troops are continuing sabotage and reconnaissance activities along the R66 (Svatove-Kreminna road) and that Russian troops are preparing for the defense of the Svatove-Kreminna line.[10] Local citizens and Russian troops have reportedly evacuated Svatove in anticipation of Ukrainian attacks.[11] . . . .

    Russian troops are likely establishing defensive positions in upper Kherson Oblast following the collapse of the Russian line in northeast Kherson. Satellite imagery dated October 3 and 4 shows Russian trench lines and radar deflector systems in the Beryslav-Nova Kakovkha area, which suggests that Russian troops are falling back to reinforce defensive positions in central Kherson Oblast in the face of recent Ukrainian advances in northeast Kherson Oblast.[12] Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces largely focused on regrouping in northern Kherson Oblast and did not conduct ground attacks on October 6.[13] The Russian MoD echoed claims made by some milbloggers that Ukrainian troops conducted limited ground attacks to break through new Russian defensive lines in northern Kherson, particularly from Piatykhatky (about 35km south of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast border).[14] . . . .
     
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    Here we are: fake news from Durandal.
     
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    Here we are: your only response is to stick your head in the sand. @Destroyer of illusions will be disappoint.
     
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    No, he would say the same with only the extended description of why that is a fake. I do not have time for that.
     
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    I agree that he would call it fake, though I wouldn't expect an explanation from him. Maybe some ROFL emotes, but that would be about it.
     
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    That is as weak as most of Tucker Carlson's attacks on Biden.

    "U.S. decision to provide anti-tank missiles to Ukraine angers Russian leaders Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, left, participates in a flag ceremony during an Aug. 24 parade in Kiev celebrating the nation's independence day. (AFP/Getty Images)

    President Trump’s long-delayed decision to provide Ukraine with defensive lethal weapons signaled a new willingness to oppose Russian intervention in its neighbor, but has made European allies nervous that a recent hike in fighting could escalate.

    The State Department said Friday that the administration would supply the government in Kiev with Javelin anti-tank missiles to destroy armored vehicles used by Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine, and to raise the cost of Russia’s intervention in the conflict."
    LOS ANGELES TIMES, U.S. decision to provide anti-tank missiles to Ukraine angers Russian leaders, By TRACY WILKINSON, DEC 26, 2017.
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-us-ukraine-20171226-story.html

    Trump, like Biden, has many weaknesses. The partisan talking points tend to miss the mark.
     
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    What was "fake" about the report of captured ammo and weapons?
     
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    Obama did not want to give Ukraine any offensive weapons for them to defend themselves. Certain senators such as Lyndsey when he still friends with Macain, Senator Murphy CT, and then Senator Blumenthal where proponent of military aid to Ukraine. The Senate teamed up with Congressmen is what pushed military aid to Ukraine. Obama was a balless wonder and Trump was reluctant but pushed by Congress to give offensive weapons to Ukraine.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways



    • Western and Russian reports of fractures within the Kremlin are gaining traction within the Russian information space, undermining the appearance of stability of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime.
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin may have waited to announce that he had replaced Eastern Military District (EMD) Commander Aleksandr Chaiko until he needed to use Chaiko as a scapegoat for Russian military failures in Kharkiv Oblast and Lyman, Donetsk Oblast.
    • Ukrainian forces likely continued counteroffensive operations along the Kreminna-Svatove road in western Luhansk Oblast.
    • Russian forces continued to establish defensive positions in northern Kherson Oblast, and Ukrainian and Russian sources reported ongoing battles north and northwest of Kherson City.
    • Russian forces continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
    • Anecdotal reports of poor conditions for mobilized personnel in the Russian information space are continuing to fuel the accurate narrative of Kremlin and Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) incompetence.
    • Russian officials offered basic concessions for mobilized men and their families on October 7 but continue to rely on local governments and other non-federal institutions to provide support, including food and training, to newly mobilized men.
    • Russian occupation authorities in Donetsk Oblast are continuing to forcibly mobilize Ukrainian civilians, belying Russian claims that residents of newly-annexed territories will not be mobilized.
    • Ukrainian officials in newly liberated Kharkiv Oblast continue to uncover Russian torture chambers and other human rights abuses.
    • Russian occupation officials have likely failed to repair necessary civilian infrastructure in occupied and illegally-annexed parts of Ukraine in time for winter as temperatures drop. . . .
    Ukrainian forces likely continued counteroffensive operations along the Kreminna-Svatove road in western Luhansk Oblast on October 7. The Russian MoD claimed that Russian forces repelled a Ukrainian attempt at crossing the Zherebets River in an unspecified area in the Lyman direction.[17] Luhansk Oblast Administration Head Serhiy Haidai reported that heavy fighting is ongoing in unnamed settlements in Luhansk Oblast and noted that Russian forces are realizing the vulnerability of their defensive positions in Svatove.[18] Haidai added that Russian forces are mining infrastructure in Svatove and are stealing medical equipment from the settlement while calling on residents to evacuate.[19] Haidai added that Russian officers abandoned mobilized servicemembers in Kreminna.[20] Russian milbloggers reported that Central Military District Commander Colonel-General Alexandr Lapin is overseeing the situation on the Kreminna-Svatove stretch, especially Russian preparation of defensive positions in the area.[21]Russian sources claimed that Russian volunteer units BARS-16 and BARS-13 and elements of the 3rd Motorized Rifle Division are entrenching their positions and uploaded footage of a military convoy reportedly moving in the direction of Svatove.[22] Russian and Ukrainian sources claimed that 1,000 Wagner soldiers redeployed to Lysychansk to prevent Ukrainian breakthroughs in the area following the fall of Lyman.[23] . . .

    Ukrainian forces continued their interdiction campaign in Kherson Oblast to support their southern counteroffensive. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian forces struck an area of Russian force concentration in Borozenske (approximately 45km northeast of Nova Kakhovka), killing 10 servicemen and wounding 20.[36] Ukraine’s Southern Operational Command reported that Ukrainian forces struck three Russian ammunition depots in northern Kherson and southeastern Mykolaiv Oblasts and shot down a Russian Ka-52 helicopter.[37] Social media users reported that Ukrainian forces also struck Russian positions in Chornobaivka (northwest of Kherson City) and noted a gas pipe explosion in Kalanchak in southern Kherson Oblast.[38] Social media footage also showed the aftermath of a reported strike on a civilian mini-bus crossing the Inhulets River in Dariivka; Russian-appointed occupation officials blamed Ukrainian forces for the attack.[39] . . .
     
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    Trump's record of confronting Russia with lethal military force is well documented. The opposition to the use of lethal force against Russian aggression has been very bipartisan, and IMO, irrational. Biden is still struggling to overcome support for Russia within the executive and legislative branches.

    "The Trump administration on Wednesday approved the sale of lethal arms to Ukraine's government as the country battles pro-Russian separatists in its eastern provinces.

    The Washington Post reported Wednesday that the administration approved the sale of Model M107A1 sniper systems and associated equipment to the country at a value of $41.5 million. The administration has not yet moved to approve sales of heavier arms requested by Ukraine's government, including Javelin anti-tank missiles.

    The move from the White House is a departure from the Obama administration, which frequently condemned Russian aggression in the Ukraine but refused to approve the sale of arms to the country's Western-aligned government.
    THE HILL, Trump gives green light to selling lethal arms to Ukraine, By John Bowden - 12/20/17.
    https://thehill.com/policy/internat...tration-approves-lethal-arms-sales-to-ukraine
     
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    A good documentary on how one Russian brigade got badly bloodied and performed badly in Kharkov.

     
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    This is what Russian defeat looks like.
    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russian forces conducted massive, coordinated missile strikes on over 20 Ukrainian cities.
    • President Vladimir Putin claimed that the coordinated missile strikes were in retaliation for the explosion on the Kerch Strait Bridge, likely in part to curry favor with “pro-war” factions.
    • Russian and Belarusian ground forces remain unlikely to attack Ukraine from Belarusian territory to the north.
    • Ukrainian forces have likely liberated over 200 square kilometers of territory in western Luhansk Oblast as of October 10.
    • Russian forces continued unsuccessful attempts to regain recently lost territory in northwest Kherson Oblast while reinforcing nearby positions with damaged and hastily mobilized units.
    • Russian forces continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
    • Russian and occupation administration officials are setting conditions to move up to 40,000 residents out of Kherson Oblast to Russian-occupied Crimea and the Russian Federation.
    • Russian forces cannot supply mobilized forces, likely due to years of supply theft by contract soldiers and commanders. . . .
    The October 10 Russian attacks wasted some of Russia’s dwindling precision weapons against civilian targets, as opposed to militarily significant targets. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces successfully completed the mission of striking Ukrainian military command centers, signal infrastructure, and energy systems in Ukraine.[12] Social media shows that Russians instead hit a children’s playground, a park, a German consulate, and a business center among other non-military targets.[13] Ukrainian air defenses also shot down half of the Russian drones and cruise missiles. Russian attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid will not likely break Ukraine’s will to fight, but Russia’s use of its limited supply of precision weapons in this role may deprive Putin of options to disrupt ongoing Ukrainian counter-offensives in Kherson and Luhansk Oblasts. . . .

    Mobilization in Russia continues to face bureaucratic and logistical challenges. Russian court records suggest that years of corruption and petty theft of military supplies among Russian military personnel has rendered the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) unable to provide mobilized troops basic necessities such as protective equipment, weapons, medical, and personal supplies.[56] The BBC reported on October 10 that Russian military garrisons have sentenced at least 558 men for clothing theft, and have made 12,000 fraud convictions and over 700 embezzlement convictions over the past eight years.[57] Stolen equipment includes millions of rubles worth of goods ranging from bullet-proof vests, boots, and diesel fuel to soap, toilet paper, and socks.[58] The data from these convictions likely represents a small subset of corruption in the Russian military. The governor of the Russian Mari El Republic acknowledged the Russian MoD’s supply problems impacting mobilized troops, promised to fix the problems, and attributed the challenges to ignorance of the mobilized men’s needs on October 9.[59] . . .
     
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