Kyle Rittenhouse won’t be charged for gun offense in Illinois: prosecutors

Citations needed.

 

If his hands were up, then how did Kyle manage to shoot him in the anterior(front) side of the arm that was holding a gun?

Seems like that arm would have to be down to get shot in the front-facing surface of the bicep.

 

I have watched some of the videos but am not well versed on the in’s and out’s of the various legal loopholes and how they interplay.
No matter which way it goes 30% - 40% of the population will be pissed. I will await to see what the outcome of the trial is and if any new evidence is presented.

If Kyle was doing nothing but standing not bothering anyone then I will agree he should have lesser charges, if he pointed the weapon or made any threatening remarks or actions then I will support his execution by the state.

 

No clue, the only report I have seen that showed an unusual location of an entry wound was against Rosenbaum with him being shot in the back.

 

The legality of the situation is not very complicated, I dont think you are well versed on this particular situation at all.

I agree with the left in the sense that he should not have been there. A violent riot full of terrorists is not a place for a 17 year old kid. However that does not remove his ability to defend himself in the case of being attacked while there.

Open carry is by no reasonable interpretation inherently threatening. Outside of this unreasonable (and undoubtedly will not hold up in court) interpretation there is zero evidence he was ever threatening, if it existed it almost certainly would have been out. All videos show him walking minding his own business, putting out fires, taking down graffiti, rendering aid, etc. And then running for his life as the incident unfolded.

He genuinely showed tremendous restraint by allowing his third attacker to live after one of the most cowardly fake surrenders I've ever seen. He would have been justified in taking him out to but instead decided to let him retreat after a single shot.

As far as charges for the killings, there should be NONE. No murder charge, no manslaughter charge, nothing.

It's actually a shame how unshocking it is how quick the left is to attack this kid, and how hard it is for them to admit he did nothing wrong despite the abundance of evidence.

Kyle just has the unfortunate luck of being white in a time where the left largely is opposed to it.

 

Have you seen the videos by chance? There are plenty out there for multiple viewpoints.

 

I do not understand what you are not able to comprehend about the sentence “the legal analysis that I have read...”.

Which part is causing you confusion and I will attempt to draw it in crayon for you.

 

It was determined that the convicted child rapist was shot in the back as he fell forward as he was attempting to pull the gun out of Kyle Rittenhouse's hands.

Do you have any evidence to counter this claim?

 

So you're clearly misinformed then.

You're being lied to, and you believe the lies.

 

I watched the first few that were released, haven’t in a while.
I don’t like making assumptions about these types of events prior to the trial as evidence is sometimes released immediately after.

Unless there is video before the first shooting or the events leading up to it, if so can you provide a link?

 

Alot of people are.

Democrat politicians are spreading baseless claims about Kyle being a white supremacist.

To many people take what these liars claim at face value.

Democrat politicians are the best at building lies. They take the smallest bit of truth...which is that Kyle should not have been there and had come from far away to be there, and build entire lies upon that tiny bit of truth with nonsense claims that he is "alt right", white supremacist, etc.

They know simply by relating him to white supremacists you get knee jerk reactions from much of the country.

 

I will believe the evidence presented in the hearing.

Things I know for certain:
He had no legal right to be carrying a firearm
He was “protecting” property that was not his own
His actions exclude him from castle doctrine
He brought an exposed firearm into a hostile situation

 

I do not believe there are, I have seen them all multiple times and have seen nothing that happened prior to this incident outside of vids of him cleaning, putting out fires, etc.

My opinion is based strictly on the available evidence, and with the available evidence he was there to clean up, provide aid to the wounded, and was carrying to defend himself...which ultimately was proven a necessary precaution.

The shootings based on the available evidence is overwhelmingly in his favor. Its not even really a question based on the available evidence...he DID defend himself.

 

What's an "exposed firearm"?

Sounds like some made up nonsense.

 

No

 

Shocker.

 

I support Kyle being given bail & out of the 'pen'... I'm not sure what culpability his parents face... I wish them all the best ~ regardless... "clean shoot" as it appears...

 

Yes, two words combined are “made up nonsense”...

exposed

adjective

1. not covered or hidden; visible.

fire·arm
/ˈfī(ə)rˌärm/

noun

1. a rifle, pistol, or other portable gun.

 

Here is what we know for certain.

He should not have been there.
Him being there despite not being allowed to does NOT remove his ability to defend himself.
He was protecting property, rendering aid, cleaning, prior to the shooting.
He was armed in a dangerous area. (which is likely WHY he was armed)
He was attacked before ever shot he fired.
He allowed an attacker to live after a fake surrender, despite having the opportunity to kill...showing great restraint.
His attackers are felons

 

So if video is released of him pointing a weapon at someone or making a threat you would reverse your discussion on the issue of his self defense?

 

I won't pre-judge the case.

I will abide by any conclusion reached by the Judicial System.

 

From a legal standpoint, it actually works much better in Kyle's defense that he was carrying in plain sight.

The Antifa soycurity guard in Denver is going to pay dearly for killing a Trump supporter with a concealed weapon.

 

Almost certainly.

If for instance moments before this started he threatened to kill them, pointed his weapon at them without reason, etc then yea I would believe his self defense charge would be null. Assuming this is all on video.

If you just get someone making that claim...then absolutely not.

Also the threat would have to have been reasonably close to the shooting time. If "you" show a tweet or text from weeks or months ago then no thats not going to work for me.

But clearly the video doesn't exist. TO much time has gone by, if it existed it would be out there.

But based on what evidence there is currently, its really not a question as to whether or not he defended himself justly. He certainly did.

Am I seeing things when I say that you seem almost hopeful that he isn't justified? Is it an anti gun thing? An anti white thing? Am I just full of sh*t and seeing something that isn't there? I've been here long enough to know this is NOT at all how you would react were the politics reversed.

 

Ab-so-lutely.

You show me a video of Kyle being the aggressor and initiating any sort of confrontation, and I'll declare his self defense claims null and void.

So, watcha got for me?

Anything? Anything? Bueller?

 

As long as there are determining factors that could remain I will refrain from making an absolute decision. There are tons of items that come out in court cases that are not released prior to the trial.

Like I have said previously, if he was only standing there doing nothing else then I support the lesser charges of weapons violations. If he did something to provoke the situation then I support his execution.