LAKE SUPERIOR DRYING UP DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE! NO, WAIT…

Another fail for the AGW cult to prove it's hypothesis. Every prediction and every test fails and this is yet another example.

"Today’s Minneapolis Star Tribune headlines: “Lake Superior is near record high and threatening shoreline.” The lake is within two inches of its highest recorded level, and the consequences are dire:

Wayne Jensen sat on his narrow strip of Lake Superior shoreline last month, listening to waves crash against his small cliff and soaking in the scent of woods near Port Wing, Wis., his frequent escape from the bustle of his home in Minneapolis.

Just then, he watched a piece of his paradise disappear. A chunk of land about 15 feet long and about 6 feet wide slid into the big lake, trees and all, as he sat nearby.

“I wanted to start crying. I’m watching this beautiful, pristine shoreline fall into the lake,” Jensen said. “I just stood there in awe.”

f the gales of November come early, before the water level has a chance to go down as it typically does this time of year, the devastation could be widespread, Jensen and others worry.

Already, the high lake level is sinking fixed docks and causing problems as water seeps into homes on Duluth’s saturated sandy spit known as Park Point."

"But wait! Just a few short years ago, we were told that Lake Superior was drying up, as water levels were, for a while, below average. What caused the level of the Great Lakes to fall? Climate change, of course. And low levels, like high levels, are bad"

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National Geographic: “Climate Change and Variability Drive Low Water Levels on the Great Lakes.”

The National Resources Defense Council: “Climate change is lowering Great Lakes water levels.”

It’s no secret that, partially due to climate change, the water levels in the Great Lakes are getting very low.

The U.N’s IPCC: “[T]he following lake level declines could occur: Lake Superior -0.2 to -0.5 m.”

Dick Durbin: “What we are seeing in global warming is the evaporation of our Great Lakes.”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archiv...r-drying-up-due-to-climate-change-no-wait.php


Maybe my next thread will be on all the AGW predictions of ski resorts in California shutting down for good as it will stop snowing in the Sierra's due to global warming.

 

"Scientists" who refuse to get their fact straight are incredible.

 

Its called climate change. we cant predict what its going to do, but when it does stuff we dont like, its our fault. just pay ur C tax and shaddap already.

 

I grew up on the southern shore of "the big lake they called 'gitche gumee' ". It's doing just fine - in fact there was a very powerful rain and wind storm in the area a few weeks ago which caused severe erosion problems in the Marquette area.

On a similar note we went on an Alaska cruise in which all the speakers were claiming that global warming would devastate the area. They didn't connect the dots when the story of glacier bay indicated that it was not discovered initially:

All of this occurred of course during the later parts of the Little Ice Age and well before the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere began to rise significantly. The Grand Pacific Glacier is considered a sick glacier because it is receding. The Margerie which is right next to it is considered a healthy glacier because it is growing. Snow fall at the source is what controls glacier growth. Again no dots connected. AGW alarmists can't seen the glaciers for the ice.

 

Why do you argue about things you don't understand?

Do scientists at the IPCC or NOAH or NASA say this means anything? These are short-term variations and are surely within the range or prediction by climate models. And in fact the climate is following predictions well enough that confidence is now around 95% that warming is mainly caused by human activity.

In science and something this complex, 95% certainty is about as good as it gets.

Have you ever even looked at an actual IPCC report . I would bet a month's wages the answer is no.

 

97% believe that humans are responsible for some of the global warming we have experienced from the 1950's when CO2 concentration began to rise significantly. The current global warming trend however started in the mid 1800's at the end of the Little Ice Age. The rate of temperature rise has been approximately the same both during and before the CO2 concern.

Have you taken the time to read each of the 5 IPCC assessment reports and noted that the predictions have become less and less alarmist ?? The fifth AR actually shows that the climate sensitivity to CO2 based on real world data is ~ 1 deg C. Using the IPCC A1B CO2 scenario this indicates that the temperature in the year 2100 will be ~ 1 deg C warmer than it was in the year 2000. Any energy policy which would basically put a large carbon tax on fossil fuels large enough to change that temperature rise is politically impossible. And additionally the next ~ 3 deg C of warming is net beneficial.

Take away - global warming is not significant, global warming is net beneficial, and political action is completely ineffective in reducing global warming but will do economic harm and reduce adaptability.

Understand ??

 

During Clinton's era as president, the man did it to climate folks told me over and over that it was humans drying up the great lakes. This was their proof man ruins climate.

Glad to see man raised the lakes back up.

I tend to josh since they have been proven wrong over and over yet still feed us the same diet of fear and hate.

 

That's why the alarmists changed from global warming to climate change. Now every change in the climate is the result of increasing CO2. Heating, cooling, steady - it's all man's fault.

 

It has to do with several things.
1. Democrats love laws
2. It produces taxes for the Feds
3. It hands to Democrats innovative ways to control humans
4. It furthers "city group think" or at worst communism.

 

Liberal progressive Democrats worship the state. Even when time after time the state fails they still worship irrationally. It's hard to explain but the liberal progressives have control issues.

 

No, just Powerline lying, and you parroting the propaganda. Good cultist.

None of the predictions were about Lake Superior "drying up". They were about slightly lower levels in the long run. Which hasn't happened yet.

The conclusion? MOre dishonest denier propaganda. THeir mentor Stalin woudl be so proud of their propaganda use, and the way that deniers use the power of the big government that they adore to censor science.

You don't see any rational people here censorting science. It's only denier Stalinists who enthusiastically support that. They have to, because all the science shows that deniers are faking everything.

 

Obvious cherrypicking fallacy on your part. Global data shows global glacier volume in massive retreat. But that's hard data, and you're part of a feelings-based cult, so your feelings will take precedence with you.

http://www.grid.unep.ch/glaciers/graphics.php

 

No matter what the change is, climate change advocates will use it as “evidence” for their benefit. There is no proof that humans have had any effect (positive or negative) on climate change, the climate has changed on Earth since the beginning of the planet’s time and it will continue to change.

 

Interesting the chart stops in 2005. Some might consider that cherry picking data. It also is tracking individual glaciers with no initial size or defined volume of glaciers in the survey.

 

Lmao 95% agree on what....?

 

Once again they have been in retreat since the last ice age, but you already knew that .

 

Please don't worry. Once the global climate scientists "adjust" their historic Great Lakes water level data, it will show the water level is actually going down and their predictions were correct.

 

Lake Superior is capped by the Soo Locks. It's been full for about 3-4 yrs now. But it was near record lows just prior to the last few very wet years.

 

Of course more are receding - the globe is warming. Interesting to note the reference to the LIA maximum which of course means that there was a Medieval Warm Period minimum less than we have today.

 

Exactly - the level in Lake Superior is kept at a level in which the locks work.

 

Unless water levels fell below that...which they are not.

 

It's also a Boogeyman and the left needs everybody scared about something that they will "fix" and those mean old Republicans won't.

 

Nobody ever said the great lakes would dry up and your straw man is a fail. They did however say the levels would drop to a point where shipping would be effected and that is yet another AGW prediction that has not come true.

 

It also ignores the fact that glaciers grew very fast during the little ice age period and tries to use their rapid retreat after that period as evidence of AGW.

 

When something is evidence of everything it is evidence of nothing.