Largest Vax Study Ever Confirms “Conspiracy Theorists” Were Right All Along!

the charts prove otherwise and they smartly cut it off before omicron where there was a sharp rise in vaxd deaths!

 

disagree

 

As I posted before, insurance analysts agree!

So you think that the people who have to pay the bills (insurance companies) are too stupid to analyze the data too?

 

sure...

 

I am suggesting their comorbidities are less severe, for sure. Going to the hospital represents a chance to get vaccinated. For the very sick, going to the hospital may be the last trip they make, and they may not make it to the blue lines of fully vaccinated. So it makes perfect sense that a person who is very sick goes to the hospital, gets vaccinated, and dies for the reason they went to the hospital.

The blue lines are people further along in vaccination. They are lower than the red line. For the green line, see above.

 

Of course they do. People with comorbidities are more likely to feel like they need to be vaccinated. They may benefit from the vaccine, but they also are more likely to die of something else.

Insurance companies can use this information as a way to see how concerned the patient is about their own health. This concern could be due to poor health, or their personality, but focusing in on this helps them to cherrypick healthier people. It's not related to an actual effect of the vaccine, more that it's a proxy for overall health status. That said, this is the UK... what insurance companies?

 

CAN YOU READ!

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Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

1.Main points

• The monthly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving COVID-19 have been consistently lower for people who had received a second dose at least 21 days ago, compared with unvaccinated people. This is the case for all age groups.
• The age-adjusted risk of deaths involving COVID-19 for people who had received a second dose at least 21 days ago compared with unvaccinated individuals varied from 99% lower (in February) to 78% lower (in October); this could be caused by various factors, such as changes in the composition of the group, changes in background COVID-19 infection rates, changing levels of immunity from prior infection, changing dominant variants, seasonal changes in mortality rates and vaccine waning.
• The ASMRs calculated for specific months highlight changes over time, however they can become less meaningful if the population in a particular vaccination status group becomes very small, and less representative of the general population. Therefore we present the overall figure, which is less affected by composition effects, and the monthly figures over time, to show the changes over the year.
• Over the whole period (1 January to 31 October 2021), the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving COVID-19 was 96% lower in people who had received a second dose at least 21 days ago compared with unvaccinated people.
• The age-adjusted rates are not equivalent to measures of vaccine effectiveness; they account for differences in age structure and population size but there may be other differences between the groups, particularly underlying health, which affect the mortality rates.
• Changes in non-COVID-19 mortality by vaccination status are largely driven by the changing composition of the vaccination status groups because of the prioritisation of clinically extremely vulnerable and people with underlying health conditions, and differences in timing of vaccination among people who were eligible.

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2.Methods
Comparing mortality across coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination status is challenging because the size and age structure of vaccinated and unvaccinated populations changes over time, because of vaccinations being offered according to priority groups set out by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI). To account for these differences, we calculated age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs). However, the vaccination roll-out was also prioritised by health status of individuals, with the extremely clinically vulnerable and those with underlying health conditions being vaccinated earlier than other people in their age group. In addition, frontline health and social care workers, who could have a higher occupational risk, were also prioritised for vaccination. These factors influence the ASMRs and are particularly apparent for the non-COVID-19 mortality rates. The ASMRs are also affected by changes over time such as in infection levels, different dominant variants, differing level of immunity from prior infection and seasonal mortality.

ASMRs are therefore not equivalent to measures of vaccine effectiveness, which are reported on the COVID-19 insights tool. The ASMRs give the age-adjusted risk of death for the people in the different vaccination status groups. Estimating vaccine effectiveness is challenging when vaccination status is not allocated at random, as factors that vary between the vaccination status groups and over time need to be accounted for to determine the causal impact of vaccines on mortality. Nonetheless, the ASMRs give a simple, fast measure of how mortality rates vary by vaccination status, and can indicate that vaccines are likely to be protective against COVID-19 mortality. But the impact of other factors on the rates and how these vary with time must be considered when interpreting the ASMRs. We will continue to provide updates and additional analysis of deaths by vaccination status as the situation evolves.

 

PLONK - Those are mortality charts, not a risk model.

Calculating as risk after the fact is disingenous misinformation.

Chart PROVES there are more Vax'd deaths than UNVaxed. ignored

Yes I read far better than believers.

 

Yes that is why so many more vaxd people died than unvaxd, the governments are genocidal terrorists and terrorized them.

The vax was supposed to save those people NOT murder them, the death rates increase lock step with the outbreaks.

No different than the UNvax, no point there either

It sure is, thats called excess deaths as a result of the vaccine.

US insurance companies because the UK database sucks but the its a well known fact in the industry that the US database is purely manipulated fraud.

 

Industries|Health

A Spike in Heart Disease Deaths Since Covid Is Puzzling Scientists

Mortality data of the past four years show a wave of deadly cardiovascular and metabolic illness.


Not only did the pandemic result in the most deaths in a century, but it also triggered a wave of deadly cardiovascular and metabolic illness. While cases like Dowd’s were known from the start, mortality data of the last four years are now revealing the scale of the impact.

From 2020 to 2022, a quarter of a million more Americans over 35 years old succumbed to cardiovascular disease than predicted based on historical trends, according to Bloomberg analysis of data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In 2023, age-adjusted stroke mortality was almost 5% above pre-pandemic levels, according to preliminary data, while rates from deaths related to hypertensive heart disease, rhythm abnormalities, blood clots, diabetes and kidney failure were 15-28% higher.

Covid had a muted impact on other common causes of death such as cancer and Alzheimer’s disease, the data show. <<<----[No longer true for cancer]

“The cardiometabolic aftereffects of SARS-CoV-2 have been profound, persistent, and peculiar — really peculiar,” said cardiologist Susan Cheng, director of public health research at Cedars-Sinai’s Smidt Heart Institute in Los Angeles.Scientists are still trying to figure out why.





Taking note they now that the facts that were hidden from us are out in the public they changed to selling other stuff as the underlying cause of death, before it was all about covid causing death. The biggest part of other is the Jab shown in previous charts for those who understnad tham.

 

You appear to be spamming your claims across multiple threads. Which part of this, in your quoted report, confuses you!

 

Then STOP SPAMMING YOUR CLAIMS ACROSS MULTIPLE THREADS!

Which part of vaccinated dead people confuses you?

You have no data to prove the expert insurance analysts are incorrect and they have judged that you most certainly CAN us this data to prove the effectiveness in ADDITION to the EXCESS ONGOING UNCHECKED DEATHS of vaxed people!

We dont regard invalid propaganda, we see through it, you are not a 30 year veteran insurance statistical anallyst! You have nothing to support your claims.

Further more the UNvaxd had the same "OTHER FACTORS" as the vaxd!

 

Post 85 also supports the insurance analysts! The people that pay the bills almost invariably get it right. They claim they are seeing up to 30% increase in deaths in the US.

 

And, as is so often the case, evasion and diversion!

Which part of this, in your quoted report, confuses you!

ASMRs are therefore not equivalent to measures of vaccine effectiveness, which are reported on the COVID-19 insights tool. The ASMRs give the age-adjusted risk of death for the people in the different vaccination status groups. Estimating vaccine effectiveness is challenging when vaccination status is not allocated at random, as factors that vary between the vaccination status groups and over time need to be accounted for to determine the causal impact of vaccines on mortality. Nonetheless, the ASMRs give a simple, fast measure of how mortality rates vary by vaccination status, and can indicate that vaccines are likely to be protective against COVID-19 mortality. But the impact of other factors on the rates and how these vary with time must be considered when interpreting the ASMRs. We will continue to provide updates and additional analysis of deaths by vaccination status as the situation evolves.

 

Not surprised you would pull covid through your ideological hole.

 

thats very confusing tell us what that means

 

You want to know why...?

"Nearly 50 percent of all Missing Americans died before age 65 in 2020 and 2021. According to Dr. Bor, the level of excess mortality among working age adults is particularly stark. "Think of people you know who have passed away before reaching age 65. Statistically, half of them would still be alive if the US had the mortality rates of our peers. The US is experiencing a crisis of early death that is unique among wealthy nations."

The COVID-19 pandemic contributed to a sharp spike in mortality in the US-;more so than in other countries-;but the new findings show that the number of excess US deaths has been accelerating over the last four decades. Dr. Bor and colleagues analyzed trends in US deaths from 1933 to 2021, including the impact of COVID-19, and then compared these trends with age-specific mortality rates in Canada, Japan, Australia, and 18 European nations.

The US had lower mortality rates than peer countries during World War II and its aftermath. During the 1960's and 1970's, the US had mortality rates similar to other wealthy nations, but the number of Missing Americans began to increase year by year starting in the 1980's, reaching 622,534 annual excess US deaths by 2019. Deaths then spiked to 1,009,467 in 2020 and 1,090,103 in 2021 during the pandemic. From 1980 to 2021, there were a total of 13.1 million Missing Americans.

The researchers emphasize that this mortality crisis is a multiracial phenomenon and is not specific to minoritized groups. Black and Native Americans are overrepresented in these measures, with mortality rates in early adulthood (ages 15-44) that were five and eight times higher than the average of other wealthy nations. The team also says that the history of structural racism in the US, including policies such as slavery and redlining, has contributed to racial and ethnic disparities in wealth and in access to education, housing, and healthcare that drive leading causes of worse mortality rates, particularly at young ages.

Still, two-thirds of the Missing Americans are White, a result of the larger population of White Americans, their older age distribution, and death rates that are significantly higher than other wealthy nations."​

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230717/US-mortality-rates-far-higher-than-peer-nations-leading-to-millions-of-Missing-Americans.aspx

No mention of covid vaccines as the cause.

 

did he simply dream that up?

 

Evasion folks, cant articulate what his rebuttal means.

Why would anyone post something they cant even explain.

 

Well that got evaded.

 

You are not an "us". If you cannot understand simple explanations in medical papers, you've got no damn business spewing out your incessant anti-vax batshit.

 

That's one of THE most lamest evasions I've ever seen. A fully explained statement that everyone else can understand confuses him, when we're getting cluster bombed with one thread after another with garbage.

You damn well tell me! I fully understand everything I post and it's not my job to educate wilfully ignorant people.

 

You are the one that is claiming I am too ignorant and do not understand, so either explain what it is that I dont understand by explaining exactly what it means or concede that you dont know.

 

Why don't you read your sources?

 

Why dont you articulate it since it appears Beta cant.