Late-term abortion made LEGAL in NYS

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  1. Moonglow

    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    Not if you know what you are reading and understand the system like I do.
     
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    I see, so this new law is justified.
     
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    Then how are you so sure that late term abortions will be performed by anyone other than an MD?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The law does not seem to make any effort bothering to specify just exactly what those "health reasons" are.
     
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    Yes it is

    Laws do not stop abortion and N.Y. is close enough to the Canadian border....
     
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    So let's remove the part in the criminal code making a boyfriend slipping his girlfriend an abortion pill illegal.
     
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    You remember all the references to committees and departments that follow code there are existing laws in which do explain those health reasons. They can't go against federal law on abortion and their guidelines, every law that has been passed which didn't comply was found unconstitutional.
     
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    Does the boyfriend have a health concern related to the continued pregnancy? No? Then it can remain illegal
     
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    CORRECT and YET so many Anti-Choicers just start screaming "the Democrats want to rip babies out of the womb and chop them up ...and then barbecue them and the law let's them!!"

    They scream about the law and yet when asked REPEATEDLY for the part of the law that says what they claim they shut the F up so fast it's hilarious!!!
     
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    So assaulting women shouldn't be a crime???

    YUP, I bet Anti-Choicers would love that!!
     
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    Why should it?
    According to pro-choice logic, making it illegal wouldn't stop it, isn't that correct?
    How do we know if a boyfriend gives his girlfriend an abortion pill? What evidence will there be to prove it?
    Aren't those the questions pro-choicers have asked about making abortion illegal?
     
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    The UNCHERRY PICKED POST YOU QUOTED:

    So assaulting women shouldn't be a crime???

    YUP, I bet Anti-Choicers would love that!!




    You have to ASK why assault should be a crime?

    Maybe someday real life will explain that to you....but if you're stuck in Fantasy Land you won't get it.



    Seems to be plenty to nail guys who commit assault that way :) ...and they sure pay the price :)



    No.
     
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    Pro-choicers ask why abortion should be a crime, so obviously they are asking.

    Yet you've argued that women could escape paying the same price if abortion were made illegal, so why should we bother criminalizing it.

    You're inconsistent if anything.

    Arguments don't only apply in the situations you want them to.
     
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    Correction: being born, when the baby is only halfway out of the birth canal.

    This is absolutely terrible. What those poor babies must have suffered though!

    They should have had a red colored light display rather than pink on that tower. Blood red.
    Would have been more appropriate for what this is.
     
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    NO, Pro-Choicers KNOW giving someone a drug without their knowledge is a crime. YOU are the one asking why assault should be a crime, that was YOU ....did you forget already :)


    UH DUHHH, one can't assault one's self DUH uh duh ..




    YOU ARE consistent....I just can't say what you're consistent at in here ;)



    FACTS apply everywhere....that's YOUR big problem :)
     
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    :nana:


    OH THE DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMA !! """...……... ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE WHAT I HAVE CONJURED IN MY MIND WITH NO BASIS IN REALITY"""""

    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::nana::nana::nana::nana::nana::nana:




    Funny how you just can't use FACTS for your side of the argument...
     
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    A non-doctor cannot perform an abortion
     
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    The mass murderer called son of Sam was also adopted.I wonder if he thanked his mother.
     
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    My understanding of that law is they can.

    (Basically it's a nurse or ordinary abortion worker with some extra training, and there's a quick certification course they have to take)
     
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    You are grossly misinformed. The new NY abortion law DOES NOT make abortions legal after birth, or even late in the third trimester unless the life of the mother is endangered. Statements to the contrary are simply lies, or malevolent propaganda by the mislabeled Pro-Life (actually Pro-Fetus) supporters, who don't mind lying to get their way. Those people don't care how much suffering they impose on everyone around them if they can just get their way.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Kick me again. I said what you accused me of. I don't this instance recall what my point was since it could have been a post the day I never got any sleep. i was not able to sleep all night long so was very weary.

    I can't explain others ideas on abortion as you want to do.

    My history for being 80 years of age includes a lot of errors during my life. I also got things right.

    What I got wrong was ever believing abortion was the magic cure.

    In the first one, my former wife wanted hers, as she told me, due to having Rh negative blood type. I knew it was a FACT. She did have this very troubling type.

    Regular blood types do not present a huge danger to the mother nor the child. But in her case, the child would need a total blood change. And it could kill the mother.

    So that time i drove her to the hospital and not planned parenthood where hospital doctors could handle it. Also it was planned around my work schedule.

    Next was after my divorce. When we married, she had two small kids. A boy and girl.

    At this point, the girl was around 17 years old. I was living at one of the homes I kept from the divorce settlement. My former Wife kept the family residence. Her daughter bailed out on her mom and into the house her boyfriend lived at with his single mom. Mom there was not aware of my step daughter living in her home. Her and the boyfriend made use of the attic to hide the daughter until time to sleep. It sounded to me like a very strange way to live.

    I got a frantic call from the step daughter she was out on the street. mom found out she lived there. She blamed her boyfriend. He got her pregnant and when he learned of it, he told her to hit the street. Wanted her out of his life.

    I picked her up. She later told me she wanted an abortion. She had no money. I drove her where she wanted to go and there they aborted her child. I paid in full of course.

    Still I was not then against abortion. I did not see it as a good thing, but knew it was legal.

    I guess it was much later around 1991 that I was going with Bonny and wanted to marry her. She told me she was pregnant with my child. I wanted to be a family. She deceived me by going out of town to get the abortion. She and I broke up soon after and i blamed the abortion as the cause of breaking up. I believe in her mind, the death of our child was so hurtful to her she could not tolerate being with me over guilt. I did not lift a finger to cause her to get that idea.

    Later I was living with Jan. She called me at the job to meet her. She told me at the meeting she was pregnant. I told her let's get married. She was not ready for that. She told me she would get an abortion. i told her I would pay. She said no, we would split the cost. She drove to the planned parenthood and got the abortion. She felt so bad she asked me to pick her up. I took her to my home where I could care for her. Again, she felt very guilty. It ended up busting us up too.

    So i do not have a warm happy feeling about those abortions. To me they wreck a good relationship. Each of the women had their positive features. Bonny was a super hot woman. Bonny was in fit shape. Bonny had a great personality.

    Jan was pretty but but not like Bonny. Jan is smarter than Bonny. Jan was very accomplished. Jan was very excited to have sex all over the place. Bonney was a bit more reserved.

    Still I do not understand men who are in love with abortions. Women mourn. Even if they hide it from the men, they mourn the lost baby.
     
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    Proof? And I would like some link OTHER than a discussion at “lifeshitenews”
     
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    I think this is the sixth different story you have posted about your so called “abortion experiences” and if you could have gotten the medical aspects more confused and wrong I would be surprised
     
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    Since you believe in choice, I assume that choice also extends to the father right?
     

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