"Le Pen win is probable. It is the end of days !" - NY Times

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  1. VotreAltesse

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    She has not failed for the moment. It was the first stage. The second stage will occure in two weeks however she has almost no chances to win.
     
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    Emmanuel Macron won the first round at 23.7 percent, with the far-right's Marine Le Pen of France's National Front party trailing narrowly behind at 21.7 percent. Macron and Le Pen are through to the second round. A previous poll showed that Macron would beat Le Pen 66 percent to 34 percent in the two-way runoff.
     
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    Yes, however, she will probably fail, but that's not already done.
     
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    The EU was started to avoid WWIII It's no accident that le pen and her dad are from the Nazi leaning south of France. Nationalism? Adolf and Mussolini supporter? Seen "a French village" guess not
    I guess you would have banned your Syrian inventor of your iPhone? Know that USA Muslims have higher Ed and $ than you, mr average white American?
     
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    Quit it with facts. Our posters just spout their opinions
     
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    Don the cons a Turkic tribe?
     
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    I am not going to touch this one but there are a few facts in this post, lol.
     
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    I gather you walked 2000 miles from a war torn place to get to somewhere better? Nice to be so high and mighty.
    Are you sucking off your socialist SS and medicare and VA benefits yet?
     
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    Wow! They both want the EU to go away? Well there is proof positive that they are one in the same person!
    Or that Putin tells Trump what to think. Or that Trump likes whatever Putin says he should like. Or something...uh, or other.
     
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    I gather you personally have taken in as many Syrians as possible and share your home with several families at this moment?

    Are your refugee friends sucking off the welfare tit they have contributed nothing to yet? But it's not your money, is it?
     
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    No, but they are both WRONG.
     
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    Why? Because of this (which is one of my signatures) quote The EU has failed as an entity. It has undermined democracy, it has wrecked prosperity, and above all it is currently engaged in destroying the very cultures of its individual members. unquote
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cultures evolving is not really accurate, at least not historically speaking. Cultures change and you may see micro level changes, but what the progressive left is pushing for with multiculturalism and socialism and feminism fly in the face of the natural order. This is why progressive ideology will ultimately fail, but no before scorching Earth. There is no evidence in the animal world or in human history of a non-Patriarchal society succeeding. There is no evidence that nations can exist with a variety of cultures with varying ideologies working at the same time.

    Islam is incompatible with Western secularism.
     
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    LOL!!!!

    never heard of bees?

    there are many examples of matriarchal societies in the animal kingdom.

    you simply refuse to look them up.
     
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    It highly depend what do you call "succeeding".

    Their is a lot of native american or "primitive" societies with matriarchal system. The rise of partiarchal society in humanity seems to coincide with more warrior ish society. It doesn't mean however that men are more evil than the women like some feminist believe.

    Nation no, however their is a lot of evidences of societies who worked so : the roman empire, the ottoman empire, the chinese empires and even some indian empires. However it worked with a dominant ethny, and they were empire : the legitimity of the emperor is the army, not elections.

    Their is the exception of Swiss too, but it's really exceptionnal. A lot of swiss I heard are extremly arrogant, but Swiss is on some point one of the most fascinating country in the world.
     
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    They've already rigged it. They sent double ballots to France's 500,000 expats. Expats are by definition pro-EU (they're in the EU, outside France) and will therefore vote against Le Pen. They have no plans to correct the "error". That's half a million extra votes for Macron:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...rench-election-votes-computer-Emmanuel-Macron
     
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    However a lot of them couldn't vote because they didn't opened enough voting office.

    One of my relative had to wait one hours to vote, but finally, he could vote.
     
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    Wow, you predicted no candidate would get 50%+? That's pretty impressive, since I doubt any candidate has ever got 50%+ in France's history and no candidate was getting more than 20% in the polls, ie. it was in fact impossible to win the election in this round, for Le Pen or any of the others.
     
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    Most recent I saw was 39% to 61%, which they said would close.
     
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    I have still 2 weeks to study deeply the propositions of both candidate. For the moment, I chosed to vote blank. It's interesting to see that 15 years ago, Jacques Chirac won against the father of Marine Le Pen with 80 % of the votes. They still progress.
     
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    [heavy Russian accent]Not if the Russians meddle with the French elections[/heavy Russian accent]

    :mrgreen:
     
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    THey should avoid that, we could do uncivilized things, like sending them our former presidents.
     
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    Glad you brought that up.

    Sustainability of the Articles of Confederation, which is where the German State could bring in anybody they wanted against the will of Federal Government and have sanctuary cities like the German City of San Francisco:

    “The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year…”

    The Federal Union being unable to stop Sanctuary State’s support for illegal Migration reduces the Union’s Constitution to nothing more than the Articles of Confederation, making a Trump and Le Pen more likely.

    Do they need a stronger Federal government or Nationalism?


    France probably will not elect Le Pen; Madcow’s head will explode if they do.
     

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