Lee: "Reparations Must Be Paid For The 250 Years of Slavery in the U.S.A."

Damn bro, you certainly have your moments, great post!

 

We already have reparation. It's call affirmative action. A kid who has lost a college seat because his skin is too light will have paid $1million in repartion over his lifetime.

 

It was paid for by a little thing called the Civil War.

 

Well let me help you out, miss yella bumble bee slandered whitey about the 39:00 minute mark claiming that we tried to enslave all the native americans, and then rambled on, thanked al sharpton, and then topped it off with that utterly ignorant remark at precisely 47:00 in this video:



Next! Enjoy.

 

Couple of newbies making noise. Again. Ho hum

 

If you google how long did slavery last, here's what you get...

"As far as the institution of chattel slavery - the treatment of slaves as property - in the United States, if we use 1619 as the beginning and the 1865 Thirteenth Amendment as its end then it lasted 246 years."

 

"How do we calculate it? Most historians use 1619 as a starting point: 20 Africans referred to as “servants” arrived in Jamestown, VA on a Dutch ship. It’s important to note, however, that they were not the first Africans on American soil. Africans first arrived in America in the late 16th century not as slaves but as explorers together with Spanish and Portuguese explorers. One of the best known of these African “conquistadors” was Estevancio who traveled throughout the southeast from present day Florida to Texas. As far as the institution of chattel slavery - the treatment of slaves as property - in the United States, if we use 1619 as the beginning and the 1865 Thirteenth Amendment as its end then it lasted 246 years"


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African-Americans have been free in this country for less time than they were enslaved. Do the math: Blacks have been free for 149 years which means that most Americans are two to three generations removed from slavery. However, former slaveholding families have built their legacies on the institution and generated wealth that African-Americans have not been privy to because enslaved labor was forced; segregation maintained wealth disparities; and overt and covert discrimination limited African-American recovery efforts.

 

Let me just put a stop to this propaganda right now. Indentured servants weren't slaves. My 8x grandfather was an indentured servant who came to the British colonies in 1667, 109 years before the U.S. of A. came about. He did his 7 years and paid for the boat ride, as that was the normal way back then.

Blacks owned slaves. The first slave owner was a black man. Deal with it. Blacks that came here in the early 1600's were indentured servants. They worked off their contract and became free, that's a fact. Just like Anthony Johnson did.

Hello, 1776, maybe you've heard about what happened that year?

Do not ever, ever overlook the fact that slavery came about under British Rule. Go bitch at the Queen if you're looking for reparations.

I'm sorry that some dumbass put that entry in google but the United States is only 243 years old, so maybe it was AOC who said it lasted for 246 years, since Miss Sheila said it lasted for 250 years.

 

The first black indentured servants arrived in Jamestown in the colony of Virginia in 1619. They had been captured in Africa and were sold at auction in Jamestown. After completing their service, some black indentured servants bought property. But racial prejudice among white colonists forced most free blacks to remain in the lowest level of colonial society.

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The first black African slaves in the American Colonies also arrived during the early 1600's.

During the mid-1600's, the colonies began to pass laws called slave codes. In general, these codes prohibited slaves from owning weapons, receiving an education, meeting one another or moving about without the permission of their masters, and testifying against white people in court. Slaves received harsher punishments for some crimes than white people. A master usually received less punishment for killing a slave than for killing a free person for the same reason. Slaves on small farms probably had more freedom than plantation slaves, and slaves in urban areas had fewer restrictions in many cases than slaves in rural areas.

 

Umm... yeah, if you use 1619, then end it at 1865, that would make sense.

You probably don't know this, but slavery goes as far back as history can take us. So why exactly 1619?

 

620,000 soldiers were killed in the civil war- I think that is reparations enough.
Further, a very large number of today's Americans are from families that were not even here at the time of slavery, and had nothing to do with it.
My family for example emigrated from Germany in the early 1870's. Justice has already been done, the current "reparations" movement is just more leftist crackpot mentality.

 

Ta Nehisi-Coates, huh?

Were you aware that Ta Nehisi-Coates was inspired to become an author/activist by the death of a friend who was shot by the police?

His friend was a black man who was shot to death in a black neighborhood in a majority-black city with a black mayor, black AG, and a black chief of a majority-black police dept.

Oh, and his friend was shot by a black cop.

And this is what inspired Ta Nehisi-Coates to become a famous activist who rails against evil whitey, and demands his 40 acres and a mule.

 

Learn what an indentured servant is or just drop it. The first white indentured servants arrived in the colonies a hundred years before the blacks. Do you know what 'the colonies' means? It damn sure isn't the U.S.

There was not one single slave in the British colonies until John Casor in 1653. And his master was black. Deal with it.

I know the facts don't fit the leftist point of view, but that's history.

If you want to continue this nonsense of conflating indentured servants and slaves, then I demand reparations. No doubt there are millions upon millions of whites in this country who are descendants of indentured servants.

 

Reparations already exist, they are coded into law as equal opportunity laws and preferential hiring practices for certain minorities.

 

As we have discussed many times on this forum, the vast majority of those who benefited from affirmative action have actually been white women.

 

Not entirely sure about the reparations issue as Native Americans and Hispanics also have legit claims. It's a good bet the folks in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam will also demand $ for the depredations imposed by the USA government. Will be interesting to see how all this develops.

 

Duh, women were disadvantaged too and the largest demographic but affirmative action was passed based on racial issues. Affirmative action was introduced as a way to combat racial discrimination in the hiring process. It was later expanded to address other issues.

 

Who pays? Would Muslim's have to pay since they played a large part in the slave trade? How about Briton? Sure they banned it before the US did but still played a part in the supply chain that included the slave trade.

 

Affirmative action can be traced to ancient Egypt when their academies admitted poor Greek scholars and gave that culture civilization. See Herodotus's The Histories. During the Dark Ages, Islamic academies in Andaluçia admitted poor Christians into their schools. Ivy League schools admitted impoverished farm boys in order to promote diversification. As always, it was whites who were the chief beneficiaries of affirmative action. This is the first generation where non-whites benefited from something that has always been in place since time immemorial. Funny how it suddenly became objectionable at the same time - coincidence, perhaps?

 

Spain played an even bigger part in the slave trade though other European countries participated. One must not overlook the fact that the churches and even the synagogues played a role as well: https://tinyurl.com/y694y3d5

 

What happened in ancient Egypt is irrelevant. It was objectionable to democrats at the time and why it really never went anywhere for about half a decade until the civil rights act.

 

Of course the problem is that everyone would pay reparations if the federal government implemented it because it would have to be paid from the tax and spend clause. That means those getting reparations will pay for part of it themselves.

 

While slavery was indeed an evil thing (and not one invented by Americans at all) one has to ask if the slaves had not come to America; if the Europeans had never entered Africa at all- what would be the life of the descendants of those who became slaves, who would now be African citizens, be like today?

The average annual income in sub-Sahara Africa today is $2,041.00
Life expectancy there (from birth) is 46 years- the worst in the world.
I suspect a great many people there today wish they were descendants of American slaves instead of who they are.

This is true despite the massive amount of aid provided to the African nations in that area- around $50 billion per year from worldwide, of which America provides over a third of the top ten nations contributions.

 

OK, I take you at your word for now, and we'll see after the Democratic Convention.

 

yep, I have never supported reparations, this has come up many times in the past too, I have been consistent on this one

what happened to the slaves was bad, but no one living today was a slave seller, slave or a slave owner...