Lesbian harassed and forced to leave a public restroom

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  1. RPA1

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    I think this girl purposely tried to dress up like a man in order to challenge the law. Maybe she or one of her buddies called the police.
     
  2. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it is a man's RIGHT to be able to pee in a urinal...Are they installing urinals in all women's bathrooms?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Will somebody please set this guy up a safe space so he can feel comfortable. The worst thing that could happen is someone being un-comfortable, or so I've heard.
     
  4. robini123

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    In the absense of harm their discomfort is a manifestation of self and as such placing blame on another is blame misplaced. Those who feel uncomfortable around the person in the video need to look inward for the answer to why they are uncomfortable. I argue that their discomfort is likely a manifestation of a steriotype based upon ignorance of that which is foreign to them and not understood. I would bet that indoctrination played a part in the creation of the stereotype

    The answer to that question depends upon how the law is written. Have you read over the law?

    What harm do you perceive the person in the video as causing others?
     
  5. robini123

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    If the alleged right of comfort applies to all people then in the context of the video who's alleged right of comfort trumps the others and why?

    You dodged my question on the source of this alleged right and as such I take your previous claim as opinion as opposed to a right backed by an actual law.
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    """""But at the same time I do not discount someone else's right to feel comfortable. """"


    Remember those words when your Repub friends are screaming about political correctness....:) Glad to help...
     
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    So you are cool with being uncomfortable just to make others happy (any situation ok). Granted I already stated I myself have no problem who's p*ssing next to me but I will not be so callous to disregard the feelings of others.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgeiger002 View Post

    So let's say someone did complain about this "so called" girl in the Ladies room? Do they themselves have any say in this or not? ...or should they just feel very uncomfortable and mind their own business?? How else should the police have handled the situation? Just take the (boy wanna be's) word for it?
    Sorry but showing ID is about the only way to confirm.""""


    No, you have no say in who uses a PUBLIC restroom....just because you don't like the clothes they're wearing or how they look...



    """""or should they just feel very uncomfortable and mind their own business?? """"


    They are free to feel anyway they damn please AND they should mind their own business...ISN'T THAT WHAT THEY WANT THE OTHER PERSON TO DO?


    Women and girls do NOT have to wear what others think is appropriate clothes for women...


    Taking away women's right to wear what they CHOOSE......HOW is that Freedom and Liberty? Or is Freedom and Liberty just for YOU???[/B]

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    You have been...you don't care how the woman who was hassled felt! You don't think women would FEEL as if their rights were taken away because YOU want to dictate what they wear and how they look!!!
     
  9. kgeiger002

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    So basically if you saw someone who you felt very uncomfortable with...let's say you had a suspicion the person could cause harm. You are basically saying its not right to feel uneasy - just look the other way. That's not PC I gather?
    Also please don't try to be a psychologist and make the decision for everyone when someone should feel uncomfortable or not.
     
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    So, you don't mind the installation of men's urinals in women's bathrooms? After all, men want to feel comfortable too. Plus you will be treated to the sweet smell of urinal cakes....:cool:
     
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    But gun rights are absolute even at the cost of public safety?
     
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    You are free to go to the hood and scream out the N-word. but that doesn't mean it is ok.
     
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    Should those that do it be punished by the government like what conservatives want against transgenders?
     
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    lol oh trust me, you will be punished if you go and (*)(*)(*)(*) off an entire ghetto hahahaha. And to be honest I wouldnt feel sorry for the person because there are simply just some things you do not do out of respect for your fellow man or woman. Stupidity has a price.

    And what im seeing here is more of a call to logical legislation concerning this. Me personally have no issue with someone who is genuinely transgender going to the opposite bathroom. My concern is closing any loopholes for the obvious.
     
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    It is fine to feel uneasy, what is wrong is to assume that said feeling gives one the right to dictate terms to the other in the context of the bathroom video. Being a lesbian dressed as a guy in and of itself harms no one in any way shape or form.

    Your argument is focused on feelings whereas my argument is focused on harm and I argue that feeling uncomfortable in the context of the bathroom video is not harmful.
     
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    I understand your point. So let's just agree to disagree.
     
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    Indeed as our country is set up to protect the minority from the majority and is one of the best things about our system from my perspective. It's not that we have a really good track record at protecting minorities but we are getting better at it.

    A system of mob rules is fine if you are part of the mob else you get crushed by the mob. In a country that espouses freedom and personal liberties I find it best to be tollorant of harmless action such as a lesbian useing the woman's bathroom.
     
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    I am not here to agree or disagree. What I am here for is to gain in knowledge by talking to others. I am glad you understand my position but I would like to better understand the premise of yours. For starters who's feelings matter more, a straight woman in a bathroom who is uncomfortable around gays, or a lesbian who wants to use the bathroom without being hassled?
     
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    Where does this leave men who wish to sit when they tinkle?
     
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    In this case my position is a Man should not be in the Ladies room. Even if that Man is biologically a Woman. I think a Transgendered should use the bathroom he/she identifies with. In this case it would be hard for me to believe this individual does not identify as being Male...so in that respect if he wants to use the restroom then go to the Men's room. I doubt no man would have given him a second look.
     
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    I agree.

    You can be gay or transgender but if you have a penis you are a MAN!!

    AA
     
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    In the commode stall.
     
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    Men...sitting to pee?

    UGGH!!

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  24. RPA1

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    I hear ya.....I always wondered why some men stand up to pee in a stall instead of using the urinal. Then I somehow ordered button-fly jeans. You gotta drop your drawers to pee. Kinda weird at a urinal.... But sitting down? No freakin' way!!!!
     
  25. justonemorevoice

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    Lol. The only ones screaming are the tightie righties. Oh the horror! She wasnt wearing a dress and went to per in the ladies room! Lock up your children!
     

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