'LET ME DIE' begged 14 year old girl after being stung by the world’s deadliest jellyfish

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, society pays up front, but it's good to know you have it when you need it, even if you do not have money
     
  2. DoctorWho

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    To further, health care systems are costly, take the infrastructure of a hospital I know well, L.I.C.H. it is a complex facility, it takes a vast amount to run, power, water, many utilities and maintenance of grounds, there are labs, Emergency Department, surgeries, Clinics, etc... All requiring salaried staff, janitors, secretaries, and health care workers, Nursing, Physicians, Medical technicians, pharmacists, etc.... All drawing salaries, hospitals are full of expensive technology that needs maintenance.

    I have left out much, however you get the picture, health care is NOT free, the payroll alone of hospitals is staggering, Beekman hospital had a weekly payout of almost
    $ 500,000 U.S. in salaries alone, and I know this from having pleasant conversation with the payroll supervisor.

    So anyone associating the word free with health care must needs use a another definition of the word free I am unfamiliar with, if it is indeed free, who is paying the bills ????
     
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    Subsided, better?
     
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  4. DoctorWho

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    No.
    It just will not do.
    When you consider the high costs of infrastructure of Medical facilities, N.Y. Hospital,
    S.U.N.Y. Hospital, all sprawling multi building complexes with parking garages, and never ending expenses most people can't fathom, so any talk of free or even subsidized is extremely ludicrous ineffable twaddle, I was educated in this in my extensive education.
     
  5. LeftRightLeft

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    Of course it costs something, and someone has to pay. Here money comes from many avenues for our public health system but it's basically a tax base from which the funds come. In more recent times commercialisation of some services and research helps but not greatly.

    I have worked in public health for a long time and the exponential increase in the cost of health care, especially in the hi tech area is not only putting a strain on the public health system but the private sector.

    There was a time here when health and other essential services were just there, it was taken for granted.

    With all its faults our public health system, is looked upon as one of the best in the world.
     
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    Last year I had a heart attack ,it was 3:00 am and I live in a small rural town of about 10000 people. I am a 64 year old man who is living on a carers payment for looking after my 102 year old father. I had no id on me when I hit ED so they took what details I knew. By 4:00 am I was being transported to a large regional hospital about 70 minutes away. By 10:00 am I was in the cath lab. By 1:00pm I was back in the ward, stented.
     
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    Cost ... To me ... Nothing ... Zip
     
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    Please do not misunderstand, I am not knocking the importance of infrastructure, just that financial concerns affect the final cost of health care.

    Physicians are a small part of the total cost.
    Medical practice has changed or Evolved greatly as a Patient is attended on by myriads of technicians and others, Nurses,
    Environmental services, all salaried employees.
     
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    Cost to the system, perhaps in excess of
    $ 250,000 U.S. for related services, for lab work and a plethora of associated costs.
    Not free, you were not billed.
     
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    But he's worth it!
     
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    I watched on TV a show about Australian critters and I remember watching a part where they described a spider that looks like tarantula, but not hairy. That effing thing will chase you and sting you repeatedly if it gets pissed off. They said there are some snakes in Australia that would chase you as well.
    Nowhere else are critters as vicious as they are in Australia. It’s like everything evolved in there to kill humans!
     
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    Thank you
     
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    I'd far rather be here than there. We only have 2 fatal snake attacks per year. Small **** ain't deadly if you get medical attention.
     
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    Just have to be cautious. We won't let our three cats out the back during summer due to snakes. I live in a suburb of Adelaide but it's right next to a rather splendid gorge (no neighbours across the road except the wildlife) and the snakes like to go for a wander around the neighbourhood in the warm weather. When our dogs go out the back we go with them. When I walk the dogs I am constantly scouring the ground ahead for signs of snakes or even a movement that might indicate snakes. Fortunately most of them will slither away if you make enough noise, most of them are quite shy, I don't want to meet one that stands its ground.
     
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    Dang those lousy snakes and their lousy "Stand your grounds laws" There aught to be a Law !
     
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    More intriguing is the fact that the Sydney funnel web has a venom that is almost exclusively venomous to humans and primates. Considering there ARE no other primates in Australia.............

    https://australianmuseum.net.au/funnel-web-spiders-group
     
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    You need to read "More Snakes, Less Bites", by Doctor Johann Lotts
     
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  20. Liberty Monkey

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    This girl knows how Hilldawg felt on election night.
     
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    Here in the UK we have rabbits which sometimes look at you funny, it's terrifying.
     
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    Must you?
     
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    Laugh at how you are more likely to die from bites from your venomous critters than getting shot !

    Lots of Lulz there !
     
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    Of course I must when it's wide open like that, there's rules you know ;)
     
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    It actually was against the rules because it was an off topic derailment
     

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