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"Let Me Tell You Who Obama Pardoned" Trump Destroys Reporter Over Joe Arpaio Pardon

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Anyone who has their panties all bunched up over the Joe Arpaio Pardon must of also have been pissed of all crooks, thieves, thugs, drug dealers, gun criminals and tax evaders that Clinton and Obama pardoned.

     
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    MolonLabe and Trump, thinking two wrongs make a right since November 8th, 2016.
     
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    The excuse for every Trump action can't be, "Well, Obama did ..." unless your argument is that Trump is no better than Obama.
     
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    Are you guys comparing Sheriff Joe to traitors, murderers and drug dealers? While Sheriff Joe was protecting us, the people Obama released, including Gitmo terrorists, were busy blowing up people, selling them drugs or giving away national security secrets. And I believe you guys sported wood what Manning and the Gitmo terrorists were released.
     
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    Personally, I don't support pardons unless the evidence shows innocence. The bad thing about the sheriff is that this was a man sworn to uphold the law - not some average Joe
     
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    Well, Trump's not "Wrong".
     
    Just_a_Citizen, Aug 28, 2017
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    How are we protected by arresting citizens and residents for nothing?"
     
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    I agree, I don't think pardons serve any purpose other than allowing one person to over rule our entire justice system.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know the details of the entire case, but he was only accused of a misdemeanor, amirite?
     
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    Protect? while he was too busy making a name for himself, he let rape cases in the hundreds go uninvestigated. How many of those rapists were able to rape again because of his dereliction of duty??
     
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    Didn't really sound like Trump was making excuses for pardoning Joe. He did, and he's not apologizing. He contrasted his pardon with those granted by Obama. Some were really awful. Joe isn't going to return to a life of crime. Joe has no need of rehabilitation. Joe is an asset to the community he dedicated himself to. None of Obamas recipients met those criteria.
     
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    I consider them equally odious, although in different ways.
     
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    But Joe was an officer of the court. Not an ordinary citizen. His betrayal should not be treated lightly.
     
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    I don't disagree but will add that when an individual gets caught up in a power play between the branches of the federal government (judicial, executive and the legislative) and a state his or her personal punishment can only be viewed as punitive and political.

    Historically how these issues concerning official actions are enforced is to heavy punish the "office" not the individual. 1 million a day fine until compliant. It couldn't be done like that here, Joe no longer holds the office and can no longer effect compliance, so what does the judge do, jail the individual. Frankly the judge should have let it go the instant Joe was no longer sheriff.

    I thought the pardon was correct, morally and legally.
     
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    One Nazi pardons another so to give false equivalencies does not change what the ignorant savage in The White House did. Hurry up Mueller and bury the swindler SOB and his grafter family and fellow cronies!
     
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    Although, sometimes you need to send a signal - and if that signal by Trump is that it is OK to pull over American Citizens and detain them because they are Latino (as sheriff Joe did) ... then this could really be a s**t show.
     
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    Define "nothing" ... being in the US illegally is a crime. Has Joe been charged with unlawful arrest, or detention? Illegal search, and seizure? Civil rights abuses? No. Contempt. Contempt of a liberal court judges order, contrary to federal immigration law. Joe's community was certainly safer as a result of his actions.
     
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    Where was your concern for law enforvpcement for the last ten years? Sheriff Joe is one man. Meanwhile we have entire cities and states who refuse to follow our immigration laws and allow criminals l illegals to walk the streets. One judge even let a criminal illegal out the back door so he could escape, remember that? Where is your concern for the victims of illegals who are literally provided the safety of sanctuary cities?
     
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    Criminal attempt for arresting people who looked too Mexican
     
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    He was an officer of his county, not the federal courts......................and upholding the federal immigration laws might I add, which the administration and courts totally ignored.
    Trump pardoned a patriot. Sounds crazy, but it is what it is.
     
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    Joe had two conflicting legal edicts. Obey a lower courts cease and desist, or obey federal immigration law. He chose as I would have in his position. Obeying the lower courts decision didn't improve citizens safety. Obeying federal immigration law did.
     
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    In a roundabout way, this thread is about Obama's pardoning of real criminals, including terrorists. I guess a Muslim president releasing Muslim terrorists doesn't count for anything in your world.
     
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    Looking Mexican without proper ID and immigration papers is guess what? A crime.
     
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    It happens...I'm called a racist because I look too white.
     
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    I don't support sanctuary cities. Never have. If a person is here illegally they should be sent back.

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    AND this is a huge but ... our whole system of law is based on the fact that it is better to let a hundred guilty men go free than arrest one innocent man. The use of profiling guarantees that innocent American Citizens are going to be targeted. There is simply no getting around that. We have millions of Latino American Citizens. THAT is what the judge was trying to prevent. THAT is why sheriff Joe went to jail. If you can defend circumventing that - then the Constitution is ass-whipe material to you.
     
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