Let's talk about why the gun control debate is about to change....

Excuses excuses

EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY that has introduced sensible gun laws has seen a reduction in murders and mass shootings EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY. they did not suddenly ramp up the mental health treatments - they introduced sensible gun laws

And the rubbish about not being “ethically diverse is just that. I am betting we have a higher percentage of immigrants from a broader range of countries than America has. But we cannot rally prove it because we don’t count it on the census.

 

While the US does indeed need easily assessable mental health care it is not the reason for our high homicide rate. You think it would be all good if we opened clinics in the hood and the gangbangers would just line up to get in? No more attempting to collect debts, no more infidelity or robbing dealers?
No more armed people with anger issues, who lack empathy for others, with no foresight or who are just plain stupid?

I tried to read the opinion piece but it goes to OOPS. It sounds like the same old right-wing song sung many times and they have convinced themselves it's true. More of the "it's not guns it's people" nonsense. Well it is people. It is also the easy uncontrolled availability of firearms. It is an attempt to blame a social problem entirely on a demographic they don't like instead of the ubiquitous presence of firearms which they love.

 

Cigarettes are not even slightly banned. They are much more expensive.

 

Neither do we.

 

100% false, you have no idea of what you speak about.

 

I do not know what country you are in, but smoking is banned in restaurants and work places in the US and culture has turned against smokers. The Census and FBI keep statistics broken down by race/ethnicity, which racists love to use.

 

What evidence do you have that that statement is 100% false?

 

The NRA loves to blame everything except guns for mass shootings and make the absurd claim that the solution is even more guns (more shootouts between the bad guys and good guys).

 

Do the good guys have a chance in a shootout or unarmed in a massacre?

 

Could a shootout during a massacre result in more victims?

 

Yes. Could it save lives? Yes.

Will the bad guy keep shooting unarmed innocent victims unabated or will he be forced to concentrate on the direct threat?

 

left wing activists constantly complain about the NRA and try to saddle gun violence on them when the real hatred comes from the NRA supporting candidates who don't buy into the authoritarian collectivist nonsense that gun control advocates usually espouse

 

If you can find someone to build one for you and that will sell it to you then go for it.

 

I don't understand the complaints about the NRA it's like they have no concept of life after 19 75 or something.

The NRA first is a joke they don't do any lobbying. We supported Ronald Reagan even though he was a gun grabber. They've supported other gun control measures. They aren't programmed and if the left wants to attack them have fun ripping the shreds I could care less.

 

That’s an interesting take that I have never heard. I also have never heard anyone in the gun community claim they bought an AR because it’s what the military has. No one has ever made that claim in my presence or on any gun forum I am on. So his take on the reason why people in the gun culture bought that gun is wrong. Period.

I have an AR and I’m very familiar with the facts that it is not a military weapon. Its also not why I bought it. It’s the gun grabbers who reference the AR to an assault rifle, or a firearm only the military should have. Where he got this argument is beyond me.

has anyone on here ever heard an owner of an AR claim he his gun is one the military uses?

I have also told people on this very forum that if an AR semi auto scares you then you should look at the ShadowTrax8 that locks on target at more than 3/4 of a mile away and shoots a 300 grain bullet. It’s a bolt action and way more deadly than any .223 or .556 . The catch is it’s $17,000

there are far scarier and more lethal guns out there. None of what he says about that I disagree with but it wasn’t the gun culture that sold the AR as an assault rifle or a weapon of the military, that was the anti gunners


And if you want to know why I bought an AR, it’s because Obama was talking gun control and history shows that once the government bans something you probably will never get to own it unless you pay 20X what it was originally. 2nd reason is because it’s a great varmint gun. Had nothing to do with a military application.

 

That wouldn't be bragging, I don't think.

I bought one to start shooting 3 gun with friends. I build them now because I can custom spec every part, and make what I call "science experiments". Can I get this .300 Blackout to run with both supersonic and subsonic rounds? Can I build a 16" intermediate gas system to create the lowest recoil .223 rifle that I can?

 

That’s a complete lie. How about Mexico? How about Venezuela? And there are more

 

your posts demonstrate what you really dislike is the NRA and how they support candidates opposite to the leftist agenda you want. The anti gun left wants to blame the NRA for things usually perpetrated by those who support politicians other than the GOP.

 

I have been saying the same thing for years, the difference is this guy knows what's coming down the line from the manufacturers, what it's capable of, and what that means to society.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The current status quo won't do. You're either for the safety of the public at large, or you're for anarchy. You cannot have both.

 

nonsense-many had low rates before they started passing stupid gun laws-and in many cases the rate of violence increased.

Why are so many foreigners so invested in trying to end our rights?

 

you are either for public safety, or you are for stupid feel good do nothing gun control laws- You cannot have both

 

Do they live in log cabins too?

 

Do they play music and stand in for deejays too?
I suppose by now you can add à GPS app so you can find your nearest school, hospital or rest home and never lose your way. It will even tell you where the local police cars are and precisely when you will arrive.
Dont you just LOVE technology?
It makes murdering someone SO EASY!

 

The only country with sensible gun laws is the United States.

Shopping citizens from abiding by the law to control criminals makes absolutely no kind of sense I don't care how you justify it it never will make sense. It's patently absurd and the US should never adopt that kind of insanity.

 

You're talking about one of the most popular rifles in the US and it's used in fewer crimes than knives.

And this is a lot like being pennywise but pound foolish