Lies and False Narratives of Christianity

Calvin was the government in Geneva.

 

If the people supported that situation, is there a problem?

 

Mormons and JW could not assent to that, which is why they aren't Christians.

 

I'm a history buff, and I know that the only reason there was a massacre on the island of Chios, something that shocked Europe and led to Greece's independence, was because the people had been deceived into handing in their guns. The Turks continued these methods and deceptions until the Armenian genocides a hundred years later.

Never give up your guns. Washington knows that as long as there are militarized civilian groups, there is no way they can take control of the US and impose the enslavement of a new world order.

 

Exactly, gun control is about people control, not crime.

I just sent in my NRA membership renewal.

 

Servetus was pulled out of church and burned alive on green wood (prolongs the agony). Is there a problem?

 

You can have guns and gun control.

 

Yes it was a problem, it was against Christ's teaching. If I'm responsible for that are you responsible for the tens of millions the atheist Stalin killed?

 

I'm only responsible for those I have killed.

 

With a crown of sulfur, no less.

 

1. Christians hate science.

LOL ask Galileo if the church hate science.

3. Christianity is the same as islam, but not as peaceful.

Take note that it was a Muslim ruler who save a few hundreds thousands Jews from Christians by sending a large fleet to Spain and afterward making them welcome in lands he control.

10. America was founded by irreligious skeptics, who saw the evil of Christianity and tried to keep them from meddling in the lives of others.

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.

Thomas Paine

And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.

-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

 

Yes there is shortly going to be mass murders in the UK as they will not even allow their Olympics pistol team to practice in the UK but need to travel outside the UK to do so.

Love the nonsense you can find on the internet.

 

Jefferson and Paine were certainly flakes among the Founders when it came to religion.

Science as we know it arose in the Judeo Christian West and no place else. Even Oppenheimer and Whitehead acknowledged the Christian roots of Western science.

Actually, the general attitude of the Founders was that Christianity be fostered as long as it didn't impinge on others freedom of conscience.

 

The roots of the scientific method go at least as far back as ancient Greece.

 

The one major problem that Luther had was how can Rome say that one must be under the Pope to be saved, if for 1,000 years there was only one universal Church and they were not under the Pope? Anyway I know very little about the Reformation, but from what I gathered neither Luther or Wesley had any intent to change the traditions of the Church. They were very much a part of it. The change happened later on when traditions were being formed through an opposition to the Catholic Church.

The major beliefs regarding the Creed and the Trinity remained the same, and to suggest that the Protestants would past sentence and condone killing just doesn't sound right. Even in the Inquisition the Church would only find guilt, it never passed judgement. That was left to the secular authorities.

 

Not according to Oppenheimer and Whitehead.

 

Love it when a Greece scientist Eratosthenes calculate the circumference of earth within a very small error margin in 240 BC.

 

Sorry facts are facts an both advance science and mathematic go back to the Greece at least.

Too bad that the Library of Alexandria was lost by fire.

 

According to history. Though I seriously doubt Oppenheimer and Whitehead have denied Greek influence, especially given Whitehead's love for Plato.

 

Christianity was always part and parcel of the US. Every university was a seminary, and most of our Founding Fathers were ministers. They mention God and Christianity continuously.
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All nations at the time had their established Church and an anointed king, and to worship in a different way was frowned upon and persecuted. The British king to get rid of them, gave each denomination land in the Americas. Each colony established their own Church in turn, and frowned upon anyone worshipping in a different manner.

The colonies feared that a Federal government might establish their own Church, and they would end up being persecuted, so to ease their fears, they established a separation of Church and State. This was to insure the colonies that the US government would never infringe on their freedom to worship as they please.

This didn't mean though that Christianity wasn't a strong part of their lives. As an example, the rotunda in the Capital building held religious services every Sunday. When the Frenchman Tocqueville visited to study the American penal system, he was shocked at how devout Americans were and attributed it to their freedom to worship as they please.

 

Not just one library of Alexandria. Another one was burned centuries later by the Arab invaders, and also in Constantinople by the Ottomans. To give you an idea, when Constantinople was taken by the Turks, it had more libraries than all of Europe, more educated people than all of Europe, and more universities than all of Europe - and yet the city was in serious decline.

Who knows what information was lost, although I'm sure much found its way to Italy and France since they were well established in the Greek world, as well as to Saint Catherine's monastery in Sinai and the monasteries in Mount Athos..

Have you ever heard of the Antikythera computer? It's over two thousand years old, and amazingly they were able to reconstruct all the parts.

The Antikythera mechanism is an ancient Greek analogue computer used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses for calendar and astrological purposes decades in advance. It could also be used to track the four-year cycle of athletic games which was similar to an Olympiad, the cycle of the ancient Olympic Games.​

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Cite please.

 

Get on to Dutchsense and to his past videos. It's all there, I'm just not going to look for it.

 

It is a shame that the printing press came along so very late in human history as there seem nothing that the Greece could not had produce if they had the idea of the such a press in 200 BC.

Instead of books being one off for the most part there would had been books vols spread over wide areas and therefore no single event could had wipe out a large percents of human knowledge.

By my side is a nook e-reader with near 2 thousands books and strangely that is a mild cause of concern to me, as once hardcopy books become rare if anything cause the human race to loss our technology we would also had lost most of the knowledge needed to rebuild our technology.

But I do love no longer needing to full my home up with floors to ceilings book shelves.

 

So why didn't ancient Greece produce what we know as modern science/technology?