That's it ? That's all that you have to say to explain your position? You're opposed to " gay rights" What rights? The right to live? The right to be among us? To drink from the same water fountain?? You're for human rights but not gay rights ? So you don't consider gays human? I kind of suspected that. We're not talking about rights being based on being gay, how about being based on being human? And you made no attempt to explain why as I asked. I gave you a chance to explain yourself and you just made a complete ass of yourself.
Like I said, I am all for human rights and rights being based on being gay is precisely what we are talking about when you say "gay rights". And as far as Uganda goes, humans above a certain age should have the right to engage in sexual relations with anyone they please.
It does I made that clear in the OP No it is not http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/20/uganda-anti-gay-law-life-imprisonment Now you have said this about ten times and ignored replies and I have reported you for trolling. I think you should stick with what I actually did speak of and sourced though I accept the subject of colonisation was involved. Regarding relevance to the OP http://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2012/10/Colonizing-African-Values.pdf That is what the issues are. Whether you lack the ability to read or not, they have been put into this thread in many ways always to be met with your trolling. This time try reading. It is racism as well as Homophobia. Your game is up.
In Uganda's case, it's not the Muslims who are persecuting gays. Neither is it the Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Shintoists or the Plains Indians. That's right, it IS the Christians.
You are as clear as mud. You do not seem to have a basic understanding of what a policy statement is. You are too confused to even explain to yourself what it is that you believe in, leave alone explain it to the rest of us. You just keep regurgitating the same moronic , meaningless clap trap. You can't even explain the difference between gay rights and human rights. Get it together or get out of here
this from a guy who has openly stated, "no Limits" ........Gays base their alleged Rights on what animals do
I thought they based them on the basic concept of human rights We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What part of 'equal', 'liberty' and the 'pursuit of happiness' do you object to?
You are the only one who is confused. Im not making a policy statement and I am quite clearly instead, answering the question you asked and I quoted.
The decision of sending to death penalty or life in prison for being homosexual in Uganda is a cultural thing. Here in the US is hard to understand it because the parameters of being "gay" are different than in other countries. For example, in Mexico a man who acts active and as male having sexual encounters with other men who act passive and as females, this man still is considered as "macho". Here, in the US, both, the acting as male and the one acting as female are both gay. On the other hand, in other countries, homosexuals don't look for partners of their same age but look for youngers. Usually the older homosexuals "pay" to the younger to have sex. In the US, there is also a similar situation but is not as common as it is in other countries. Here in the US, the older who pays for sex to a younger is called "generous". lol So, in Uganda, homosexuals are always targeting young adolescents to have sex with them. This is the main reason of why they have hard laws against homosexuals, because in Uganda as it happens in many other countries, homosexuals have no respect at all for the under age, and I'm glad that their government plays no games about it.
You are aware that heterosexuals are 'always targeting young adolescents'to have sex with them? That heterosexuals have no respect for the under age? If this was about concern for the underage- why isn't this same law being applied to men who have sex with under age girls?
Wouldn't it be considered prostitution regardless of whether they are boys or girls? I was appalled in the 1980's at seeing boys and girls who could not have been more the twelve or thirteen selling themselves on the lower west side of Manhattan. Shouldn't the men who pay them be punished?
Really not the same thing as African tribal culture where young boys are an acceptable temporary substitute for heterosexual relations.
This has no basis in reality to the OP and hence can only been seen as gross racism mixed with anti gay rhetoric. Indeed if anything the new bill is claiming it is western people who are doing this http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/20/uganda-anti-gay-law-life-imprisonment Much research has been done in Africa concerning the work of American neo cons and Christian Right to create an atmosphere where African 'gays' will be eliminated. Your attempt to suggest this is African's working on their own free will when this thread has shown again and again that it is neo cons, the IRD and the Christian Right which are interfering in these countries through deceit and bribery only shows yet another aspect, the neo colonial aspect the American Christian Right attempt to suggest that this is black people acting freely on their own, trying to suggest that countries who are trying to create a situation where people will experience equal rights, without the bribery of their leaders and their agreement to spread hateful propaganda through bible study groups education and African wide broadcasts aimed at getting them to believe that gay people are demons and that if they believe this and eliminate this then their Christianity will lead them to prosperity would act and believe as they do leading to gang rape of Lesbians and murderous attacks on gays when it is well know this is not so. This is an American culture war brought to Africa and causing African deaths and turmoil http://www.alternet.org/story/144403/uganda's_"kill_the_gays"_bill_tied_to_rick_warren_mentor/ Stop trying to get African's to their detriment to play out your cultural wars. Man up and do it honestly in the US. The Christian Right's teaching is similar to extremist Islam. You can read some of it here http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=336599&page=23&p=1063470932#post1063470932 You can read a lot more about it in the rest of the thread. To come on here with your own cheap propaganda when we are talking about people creating culture wars within Africa to win the anti gay argument for people like you in the US when that American proxy war is based in deceit and bribery is a cheap attempt to further harm and deceive when the facts have been made crystal clear.
If discriminating against Christians means not letting them cage people like animals or have them put down like dogs for interacting voluntarily with others around them, then I'm on the side of discrimination. In any case, I don't think it's fair to blame this law on "Christians", because it's a certain subset of Christians that are at fault. No victim, no crime. Those who choose to punish victimless 'crimes' are criminal scum themselves and the use of retaliatory force is entirely justified. If armed thugs try to cage or execute a homosexual, she or he is entitled to kill them in self defense. Leave their children fatherless.
Simply following the bible?? If it were so simple to follow the bible, why are there so many bibles and so many interpretations of it? The only thing "simple" here is that statement....as in simple minded
so, "animals do it, so can we" doesn't ring a bell? The Constitution doesn't guarantee anyone's Right for same-sex or sex with animals how idiotic to even propose such a thing. Show me in the Bill of Rights that says such a thing.....
There are so many versions of the bible because various Christian groups alter it to reflect what they think, This has been going on since the first council of Nicaea. They follow their version, handed down by people such as Church and that clearly states, active homosexuals should be put to death.
I hope that this will not be considered off topic, but I have been fascinated by the level of intensity of the anti gay voices on this thread as well as in the general population. It's nothing less that fever pitch hysteria and I have to ask: Why does the very private matter of sexual behavior garner such interest and scrutiny by so many? Why is the sex always the exclusive focus of any discussion of homosexuality as though sex defines gays and represents the totality of who they are any more than you could say that of straight people?Then I stumbled upon this article which I think explains a lot. Lets see what you all think....... http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/03/homophobic-bigots/ It’s Not Just A Theory Anymore! The aforementioned study released in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology sought to explain homophobic behavior. What they found was that numerous individuals identified themselves as extremely straight, yet still showed signs of sexual attraction to their own gender. The best part about all of this? The individuals in this “highly straight” subgroup that exhibited same-sex attraction also favored anti-gay policies and more strict punishments for homosexuals who committed crimes. Now this isn’t to say that all homophobic bigots are gay. Some are undoubtedly just hateful, but pretending that this study has no validity is simply asinine. Just think of all of the ardent homophobes in the world that have turned out to be gay themselves. The founder of the anti-gay foundation Family Research Council, for instance, was caught on camera heading up to his motel room with a nice young fellow from rentboy.com whose profile description explained just how gifted he was below the belt.
I have no interest in discussing the bible. I'll stick to reality based issues of civil / human rights. If people want to use an ancient text of questionable origin to justify hatred and violence so be it.
what you are saying here makes no sense. They follow their version handed down by such people as the church Show the version which says that homosexuals should be murdered. Are they to be stoned to death? As has already been said what you say does not apply to all Christians so, just as with Muslims, lets not tar them all with the same brush. We are dealing here with the Christian Right, those who hope to create Christian Theocratic states. Now be very aware the murdering of homosexuals is against the law in all but 5 States of the world. http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/15/state-sponsored-homophobia-gay-rights You want to identify with them. Well it is as well we know. You do not have the right to murder them in Indonesia do you, so stop inciting illegal acts of murder.
Biologically a human female is an adult when has her periods. Socially speaking, having sex with teenager girls is sexual abuse, but is not anti-nature. But, men having sex with teenager boys is not only sexual abuse but that is dirty, and against nature. Period.
