Long Covid: even faker than you thought

Those who swallow the long-covid conspiracy batshit, are those same individuals who also swallow pretty much every conspiracy going. Some draw the line at flat-earth, many don't. They don't realize that there are whole industries making money out of their eager gullibility to believe that somehow they know things, that far more educated and smarter people cannot see.

 

Off topic a bit but the lockdowns implemented by the governors of blue states designed in my opinion to shutdown the economies of the respective blue states such as California, New York, and New Jersey resulted in much more harm than benefit. Blue states shut down schools to the great harm of low income minority kids. The futures of those kids were sacrificed to gain political advantage over Trump. Disgusting.

By Scott W. Atlas and Steve H. Hanke

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Is there a link between "long covid" and vaccination? Why isn't the CDC investigating this?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/healt...~:text=Definitions of Long,starting to blur.”

 

Is "long covid" a result of vaccination? Some evidence suggests that possibility in some individuals.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/healt...551931#:~:text=How COVID-19,the authors wrote.

 

I kind of thought it was fake when I first started seeing articles about it and there was no real pattern of symptoms and the sufferers seemed to be almost exclusively white women.

 

It would have been better all around if “long Covid” hadn’t been portrayed as unique to this one viral disease. It created fear, confusion, and now another thing to fuel mistrust. It was easy to see in real time and what the consequences would be.

 

I know someone who got Covid. It was much more severe than the flu. Imagine a really really bad version of the flu, although more like a really bad cold. Sent them to the hospital for 3 days. (Hospital wanted to hold them much longer, but they didn't want to stay that long) Person was totally and completely out of it for 8 days. Very sick for an additional 4 days after that. So it did last longer than the flu, and was much more severe. They said that they felt like they were going to die. The person was older middle aged.

I have no doubt that a lot of what the news and government claimed about it was a lie and deceitful, but at the same time it was a real bad thing going around, wasn't totally made up. Not something you would want to catch.

It seemed to cause some mild brain swelling and delirium, although that could in part have been caused by the steroid medication the hospital prescribed.

 

Your article is behind a paywall.

 

Long COVID | American Medical Association

If it props up their ideological dogma. some actually cling to crackpot nonsense rather than respect medical science.

The same is true of climatology, embryology, and other scientific disciplines.

Dr. Gerrard's concern for terminology is valid.

"Furthermore, we believe it is time to stop using terms like 'long COVID.' They wrongly imply there is something unique and exceptional about longer term symptoms associated with this virus. This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hypervigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery."​

 

Portrayed as unique by whom? CNN and Fox News? Pols? The monied interests dumbing down the public dialogue for low-information voters who don't pay attention anyway have introduced simplistic thinking like "long covid" into our lives.

That's what the media do--create fear at the border, fear of street crime... How many people will stay tuned in if the first thing folks here is that things are going well?

So, what in the hell point are you trying to make?

 

Which is why I posted Dr. Gerrard's statement in the OP.

 

Yes it is. I usually note that but forgot to do so this time.

 

Anyone who banged on about “long Covid” without disclosing the fact it’s not at all unique to viral infections. I suppose some of all the above. Anyone who sensationalized the phenomenon that’s been part of humanity since our existence.

Sure. Fear sells. But when you sell with fear you almost always end up with negative unintended consequences.

No reason to say all is going well. Just don’t act like “long Covid” is unique or new or something to lose our **** over.

Ever since politicians and media and PF members started acting like sequelae from Covid was unique or unexpected or sensational I’ve tried to point out it’s very normal. I’d rather people focus on how to stay healthy than freak out about a virus that is portrayed as doing things never seen before.

 

COVID has been sullied by more misinformation than I have ever seen in the field of medicine. The reason, of course, is too much government involvement in it. I no longer believe anything about COVID except the fact that it was badly handled and full of misinformation. Because the doctor in question is a government employee I would tend to disregard what he says because he is probably politically compromised. Pay attention to the doctors in the private sector. They don't have to support a political agenda.

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p535

 

"Long covid" serms too simplistic.

Yes, and pols on both sides are selling fear these days.

It's not "normal," but covid is a potentially nasty illness that you might be better off not getting.

You haven't made a case against a healthy diet and vaccination. There are personal mitigation measures--social distancing, P100 respirators--one can do if need be.

 

Never thought of it that way. Just seems unnecessary and over dramatic to me. But I see your point.

That’s why I recommend being as independent as possible. The less you have to depend on government, the harder it is for them to scare you into doing things you wouldn’t do otherwise. Also, being frightened shuts down critical thought and makes one reactionary. Not good when it comes to things like viruses that can kill you.

Yes, it’s certainly not good to have Covid. But the effects on the body from this virus are very similar to effects from other viruses.

I wouldn’t make a case against any effective mitigation. I spent hours and hours here during the pandemic trying to get people to understand all the ways they could protect themselves. Public health bureaucracies weren’t educating people. Healthcare providers weren’t educating people on the options. I started trying to get people to address Covid with healthy lifestyle in April 2020.

 

The only exception to personal choice on vaccines is where unvaccinated workers put someone else at risk.

 

How does choosing not to be vaccinated put others at risk? Covid infection can occur whether a person is vaccinated or not. The Covid virus is spread by individuals whether they are vaccinated or not. If someone is at high risk to Covid it is their responsibility to protect themselves. It is their choice on how they intend to do so. Requiring other who work around them to be vaccinated does not protect high risk individuals.

What scenario provides the most protection. A high risk worker and all those who work in close proximity are vaccinated or a high risk worker wears a P-100 mask and all those around him are not vaccinated?

 

Well, that would mean all employees of virtually any business would need mandated vaccination.

I have no idea how one would quantify “putting someone else at risk”. Being an overweight employee puts others at more risk than a healthy weight employee. But we can’t mandate all employees be a healthy weight just because that minimizes risk to others.

Where would one stop? Mandate 8 hours uninterrupted sleep for all employees?

 

The spike protein side effects affects everyone differently.

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   Aug 25, 2023In July 2021, long COVID-19 was recognized as a disability under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). The Social Security Administration (SSA) also considers long COVID a disability that may ...

 

Any syndrome that includes every single symptom is unlikely to be from a single cause.

 

Unless its found to cause autoimmune disorders, and has no shut off switch.

 

Is that what we're saying "Long Covid" is now?