Lookout Obama haters,there are Obama lovers everywhere it seems.

The one thing this picture proves is that the last year of the Bush Presidency was worse than we thought, as proof of the last two quarters of 2008 and the first tw0 quarters of 2009.

 

Unfortunately, conservatives have to deal with the reality liberals created.

 

Now, factor in seasonal jobs that no longer exist, and you have job losses.

 

If you are trying to convince me that Obama is worse than Bushwacker then you did not need to post that.lol.
I already knew that.I thought I made it perfectly clear that I hate Obama much worse than Bushwacker.Did you forget the part I mentioned where I said every president that gets in office is always worse than the previous one? somehow you seemed to miss that part.lol

The thing you cant get around though in arguing for wanting Bush back is that Bush made things far worse than his buddy Clinton did while he was in office.Bush I drew up the NAFTA plan in his last year in office and then Clinton got in and signed it taking away millions of jobs from americans.

Clinton got the ball rolling towards the recession and our country going down the toilet but just like Obama expanded on what Bushwacker II got started,Bushwacker II expanded and accelerated what Clinton got started and we had a far worse recession when Bush left office than we ever did while Clinton was in there.

Clinton has been long time pals with the Bushwackers.Always golfing together and going canoeing with each other.They practically do sleep in bed together.Matter of fact they have a long standing friendship that dates back to at least the early 80's and are so much good friends that Barbara Bush is on record saying Clinton is like a second son to her.

Matter of fact,if you like Bush,then you like Obama as well because they serve the same people which is not us and have the same agenda.

watch these two videos and get educated.if your open minded,you'll see that we are screwed if ron Paul does not get in office.Those videos so much tell the truth where it shows Bush II holding a lighter to the constitution of the united states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx1Jpxel-1k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAl5JhMQ-8s

Its only because Obama has made things far worse than Bush did while in office that people quickly forget that Bushwacker was the one who initially got us into the recession in the first place.I can still remember back then when Obama got in office everywhere I went people would say-Bush has left Obama a huge mess to clean up.He has really got us into a nightmare with this recession he has created.He has really destroyed the economy and the country so bad that Obama is going to need more than one term to be able to clean up and try and fix the mess that Bush got has got us in now.

Thats all I heard everywhere i went back then from everybody.I remember it clear as day.Those people back then that were saying all that have somehow forgotten they said all that stuff back then and now are blaming everything on Obama.

 

Matter of fact,take a look at Robodoons post here on this thread.
http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/177580-wake-up-obama-lovers-8.html

see that Pic of slick willie hanging out with his buddies the Bushwackers? Also did you see in that video of Bushwacker,Clinton and Obama hanging out and having a good ole chuckle at the white house together? Notice that Ron Paul wasnt with them? face it,if you like Bush,then you like Obama.

 

exactly.thats what I been saying all along.Its only because Obama made things worse than Bushwacker did that everybody conviently forgets how till Obama came along,Bush was the worst most corrupt president ever and till that point,had the most appalling administration ever in the history of the united states.Till Obama came along,Bush got us into a horrible recession.far worse than Clinton ever did while he was in office.Except for many people in texas,pretty much the entire country knew this.Thats why even the lamestream media actually reported the truth for once that Bush had the lowest approval rating going out of office than any other president ever at that time.Even a worse approval rating than Dick Nixon which was hard to believe.

When Bush got in I wasnt happy about it cause I knew how corrupt the Bush family really is but I had the ignorant mindset back then saying-Well Im glad Gore did not get in.I dont like the choices of the two candidates that we are stuck with choosing from but Gore goes along with whatever Clinton does so anybody will be an improvement over Clinton.I had no idea back then how seriously wrong i was going to turn out to be.That Bushwacker number II would turn out ot be MUCH worse and even more corrupt than Clinton was.

 

Ron Paul won't be elected POTUS. I know that's hard to hear... but somebody had to break down and set you right.

You're living in a dream world. LaLa Land. Nevergonnahappenburg.

Population you... and Ron Paul.

 

If that was to me then again,it seems you have a short memory.I have said repeatedly many times that we dont put these people in office.They are selected for us by the establishment.Our vote doesnt count.If you believe that,then YOU are living in a dreamland.

Unlike many Paul supporters here,I am a realist.I know he doesnt have a chance to get elected with the way the american sheep have let the establisment take over and control this country and rig elections.

 

Matter of fact you should read this post of Robodoons here on this thread of mine.
http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/177580-wake-up-obama-lovers-8.html

See the pic there of Clinton hanging out with The Bush's and did you see the pics in those two vidoes of Bush,Clinton and Obama hanging out at the white house having a jolly ole good time? Notice that Ron Paul wasnt there? Paul is not evil like all of them are so he doesnt want anything to do with them. Those two videos so much told the truth.I love the part of where they showed Bush holding a lighter to the constituition.Just like Obama,he has shreaded it to pieces and trampled on it.

face it,if you like Bush,then you like Obama.they serve the same people which is NOT us.Paul would serve us and thats why the media and the government are afraid of him and will make sure he does not get elected since he is the only one who believes in the constitution.

 

If enough American sheep believed in Ron Paul, he could win the election. There are enough sheeple who believe in him in his district to keep re-electing him to congress so he's not entirely un-electable.

If Barack Obama, untested and inexperienced, could be elected POTUS... I believe ANYBODY can be elected.

Except perhaps Ron Paul. His time has passed... at age 70 whatever, he's just too old to take on such a challenging task.

 

Lol....so that's what you got from SMW's post? I noticed yours is from white house.gov....please stop insulting our intelligence. Thank you.

 

Good post. Ron Paul is the voice of reason, but too many people are asleep still. But at least with Romney he will have another election to keep him in check. Like Obama said, "one more election and I'll have more flexibility".

 

You say this like it's a good thing. Give me one good reason why Romney would be better. When will you people realize our overreaching military gives government the greatest incentive to expand government power and reduce our liberties and freedom.

 

I don't hate Obama. I dislike his politics intensely. I think he is a usurper, a charlatan, a Marxist-Extremist and an out and out liar, but I don't hate him...I pitty him.

 

you can say it a million times and it just goes through one ear and out of the other to many of these posters that Romney is a white Obama.A willing puppet here to serve the establishment and wall street and spit on the constitution.same as Bush has done,same as Obama has done.Romney is the same

some people dont get it that if you like Bush,then you like Obama because they are two birds of a feather.Bush after all signed the patriot act which strips away all our freedomes and libertys.Obama said he would not vote to reinstate it but once he got in,he reversed his stance and signed it.That was the plan of the establishments all along.Have mccain say he would vote to reinstate it so everyone would turn to Obama since he said would not vote for it.Then he gets in office and is elected and lies and votes to reinstate it.He has continued all of Bushs policys even expanding them.Bush was the most appalling president ever till Obama came along. Paul is the only candidate out there willing to serve the people.He has firm beliefs against the patriot act.

Thats why Bush had the lowest rating approval ever leaving office.Obama's is as about the same as well.Like I said,their two birds of a feather.neither believe in the constituiton.so if you like Bush,then you like Obama as well whether they want to believe that or not. Like i said,its only because Obama made things so much worse than everybody has forgotten how Bush before him has got us into the worse recession ever.far worse than it ever was under his buddy Clinton.

 

Yeah there are too may american sheep still asleep that dont get it that he is our only hope.Like i said,for every ron paul bumper sticker I see on cars,I see ten more Obama 2012 stickers.its really nauseating.same way back in 2004 when all the ignorant american sheep were ignorant enough to be dumb enough to vote to reelect Bushwacker.same old song each time.Nothing changes.

 

This person below matter of fact hit the nail right on the head in his post on Ron Paul from another site.I could not have said it better myself.He totally nailed it.

is electing candidates who have the same disregard for the majority of the population, taking back your democracy? You're electing people with basically the same ideas and the same acquiescence to the system that has caused the majority of the country's economic problems, wars, and trashing of the constitution..How the (*)(*)(*)(*) is that making a difference?


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So when you speak about "all of them except for Ron Paul" being bad? You are wrong. There are lots of good Democrats. And the ones that suck like you say, we are replacing them.
Good democrats? Very few..Regarding the economy and the monetary system, or Wall street bankers or the continued trashing of our constitution and rights, or the steady tilt towards Fascism, among other things.
Paul may have his faults, but when you weigh all the important factors and issues, he is clearly better then any candidate in either party.

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Maybe your party needs to start electing more Ron Paul's and less Jon Boehners.
And just what party are you assuming I am loyal too BoBo mind reader? But you're right..We do need to elect more Ron Pauls..If only the party loyalty first BS and mentality you display were eliminated from the general consciousness, perhaps together we all could.


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And fact is, Ron Paul sucks too. Maybe we like 4 things he says but beyond that he's just another right winger.
Actually there are more then 4 things I like about his ideas for the nation.


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You think his free market capitalism will benefit you? Think again. It will produce a small rich class, small merchantile class and massive working poor class. Charles Dickens, Tiny Tim days.
So I see that you prefer a plutocracy instead? I prefer an even playing field and practicing true Capatalism instead of what we have now which is more akin to corporatism/Fascism.
I particularly like his economic ideas about replacing the Fed reserve central bank, and taking the money creation away from private hands that have corrupted our elected officials and other entities.
How has the Feds, Wall Street, and the "good" elected officials you voted for, version of capitalism working out for the majority of the nation? How's it working out for you?


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And (*)(*)(*)(*) you "both parties suck except for Ron Paul" people. I see you are already lined up to vote for Mitt Romney.
So if both parties suck, sit home in November.
No, (*)(*)(*)(*) you and (*)(*)(*)(*) Romney too, in fact (*)(*)(*)(*) em all with the exception of Ron Paul, for the reasons I stated above. See you are displaying the mentality that has enslaved this country..You're enslaved to thinking you MUST vote for one or the other of whatever the Plutocracy class puts in front of your dumb sheeple ass so you can be part of the fake "democratic" process and pretend you're making a difference, you seem to think you are changing things for the better..by voting in the same kind of mentality and bull(*)(*)(*)(*)..except in a different suit!
You honestly see some vast major difference when it comes down to the nuts and bolts and crux of the problems facing the nation and its people between the 2 party's?

“I approach this differently than all the other candidates – Republicans or Democrats," said Paul, R-Texas. "I defend individual liberty in a different way. I am the one that says, 'War, there is too much of it.' They are undeclared. It’s time to end war. I am the one that says, 'I’m sick and tired of this Patriot Act – this pretense to destroy our individual liberties and molest us at the airport.' None of the other candidates are saying that. How many of the other candidates are going to talk about the financial situation and tie it into the reality of the Federal Reserve? Those views are different from other views, and it’s my strong defense of liberty that separates me from other candidates.”

Ron Paul on What Sets Him Apart - ABC News

I will vote for the likes of Ron Paul based on his integrity, foresight, and honesty, not because of what party affiliation he happens to be associated with. Many people can't or won't see beyond party affiliation. Do you think his own party wants him in the white house? No. For the same reasons the democrats don't.
His plans call for a dismantling and or, regulation of the plutocratic pimps that make whores out of the majority of elected officials you seem to think are so vastly different.
BTW, all Obama has done was to take a handoff from Bush and continue running with the same basic agenda, there was no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing "change"! He lied his ass off when he was running for your vote in "08. You either can't see that or stubbornly refuse to acknowledge it?
The same way Bush jr. lied his ass off during the 2000 primaries.

The Amazingly Accurate Predictions of Ron Paul - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/ron-paul-on-what-sets-him-apart/


If that fellow terrorist friend of Obama's get in,Romney,not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing will change.
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My cars wear no bumper stickers. Nor do they have any Dealer identifications on them. I tell the dealers, "If you want me to advertize your dealership on my car, how much are you going to pay me?"

 

Did you ever consider that maybe it is not the Obama supporters who are the idiots?

 

As I said to my son; you aren't stupid enough to be a REPUBLICAN darling!!!!! hahahha

 

Someday, historians will be studying the cult of Ron Paul, and looking at the events which led up to the mass suicide.

 

Just as long as it's not suicide by election.

 

It was not liberals who invented the securitized mortgage industry.

It was not libertals who decided that we had to borrow more money to open a second front in a war that was already not going well.

It was not liberals who decided that the people who made the most money and did the least to promote domestic production of goods should pay a lower tax rate than working people.

Get real. Bush the Lesser screwed us and it is going to take a long time to claw back what he gave to his fellow investor class thugs.

 

It was not conservatives who ignored the problems with Freddie and Fannie.

Both wars were given the blessings of Congress.

It is not poor people that employ Americans.

What Obama is doing now will take generations to recover from. If he gets re-elected, there is no recovery.

Don't get me wrong. If Romney gets elected, he has a lot of work to do.

 

Well ya there are a lot of Obama lovers his approval ratings seem to bottom out at 42%. That is a pretty good bottom point for a president. They average out closer to 47%. Now if you want to beat him your only chance is to have the votes of nearly everyone who doesn't approve of the job he is doing. Or get some of those that do to switch votes.

I don't know how you do it, but I know you don't do it by saying anyone who supports him or is even on the fence of supporting him is either black, ignorant, or greedy. Obama detractors tried this characterization in 2008, and he turned it against you by just chuckling about it. The only way you win is to win the debate on policy. Anyone who doesn't want to see another Obama term should be putting a lot of thought into what is the best way to convince those around them. Not what is the best way to annoy or pick fights with people who are just expressing their political affiliation the same as you.