Looming Disaster - Trump Inching The USA Closer to Another War

It does, in our little three-way I'm the only practicing attorney; you and the other armchair lawyer know F-all about how U.S. law actually works...and it shows.

 

Nah, you don't that and all the hate just warps you.

 

your confidence is very reassuring, I am sure that you could not be wrong
Although the last time that we war gamed this situation it did not work out quite so well

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That's like saying hate the gun, not the guy who uses it to commit murder. Utter nonsense.

 

History has taught us that leaders and honesty are mutually exclusive. As such, words matter and laws cannot be left open to interpretation. You see what happens when SCOTUS has the seized power to interpret the Constitution. That power includes the power to amend the Constitution and create (case) law as the wind blows. Article III grants no such powers to the judiciary.

 

Well, Ethereal, your conjecture is just as good as mine about what Iran does, or does not, do.

But think about it logically... Iran can always come up with another 'General' to herd the murderous Quds morons -- but -- it would be a LOT harder and time-consuming to have to try to replace the entire armed forces of Iran if they provoke the U. S. into annihilating it....

And it is those difficulties involving both time and materiel that Iran might not be able to count on having. If Iran is, militarily, suddenly finding itself to be just another piss-ant, 3rd-world slag hole with nothing left to defend itself with, what would stop Saudi Arabia or Israel from going right in and wiping out what's left of Shi'a Islam...?

Like nearly all of us in 'the West', we wouldn't necessarily 'have a dog in that fight'. The Sunni Muslims of Saudi Arabia could go in and wipe Iran totally OUT, and if Israel wanted in on it, too, then that's their affair.... Anybody who wants to get rid of the 'Shi'a Diarrhea' that Iran has turned into during the past forty-one years is welcome to do so!

And Russia and China? Oh, they'd 'piss and moan' and make long speeches at the UN, etc., etc. But, when all the penny-whistle theatrics were finished, what we'd actually see is that nobody really gave a damn if these violent, militant, Islamo-crazies were blasted all the way back to their beloved 10-century. When a viper loses its fangs, it threatens no one....

Moreover, it would be wise to get rid of this THING that Iran has turned into BEFORE they produce thermonuclear hydrogen bombs sitting atop ICBM missiles....

. "Think real hard -- who would want those idiots down on THEIR southern border...?"

 

A very winnable war, one that could hand Iran back to the Iranian people and eliminate another sponsor of Islamic terrorism.

 

Lol, the Saudis are a bunch of tools who were cucked by the Americans.

Iran and co. (despite their incompetence) have been flipping off- and rightfully so- the Anlgo-Saxon ruling class for quite a while now. America represents “the man,” and it’s everyone’s duty to flip it off.

The Shiites have been persecuted and stepped on for centuries, Pollycy, something your people obviously know nothing about. If you think that white trash you have in the White House is going to make them submit to you and the Jews, I really want what you’re smoking!

 

You may have greatly underestimated the Saudi military, whether you think anyone in their monarchy is 'cucked' or not. It's true that I neither know, nor care, whether Sunnis have 'stepped on' Shiites, or vice-versa, but one thing remains logical -- if Iran's military has been turned into a vast, smoldering, twisted junkyard by our own thermobaric weaponry, the temptation to go in scavenge the 'cadaver' might be more than the Saudis could resist (especially given their ongoing 'tiff' with Iran in Yemen).

The same could easily be true for Israel, which has been threatened with total EXTERMINATION for many years by the Iranians, and, who have their centrifuges spinning, 24/7, as we all know.... Would Israel pass up the chance to get rid of this persistent, psychotic menace? Hmmm... maybe not. Reflecting on it, no, I've never met a truly stupid Jew in my life....

 

Likewise, would the axis of resistance (resistance to Anglo-Saxon and Jewish world order) pass up the chance to get rid of the devil himself?- I don’t think so!

But time will tell.

 

This is a ludirous way of looking at foreign policy.

NOBODY is going to "wipe them out" - regardless of who the "them" is. Progress will be by inches and through the support of the nations there.

We paid a LOT for Iraq, and now we're pushing that Shiite majority nation that we built to reject everything we stand for, and to move even closer to Iran.

 

I read and hear the talk of "we can just wipe them out" from trumpeters

think about it...

when was the last time a government and the supporters said "wipe them out"

as I stated before ..

I sure hope trump is not the person that made this decision to assassinate the general

I hope a person with actual knowledge of the middle east made the call

trump has proven himslef an idiot so many times I do not trust his judgment

 

So you're a lawyer who doesn't understand plain English?

 

Some predicted a Trump presidency would lead to a stock market crash. Then a imminent recession. Then Trump would lead us into war with Little Rocket Man. Moving our embassy to Jerusalem would cause more war.

Excuse me if I ignore the doomsday cries.

 

Trump thinks he can bluster his way out of the war that he started. Trump is a dangerous idiot.

 

The problem is, the USSC was created to interpret the Constitution and make judgments as close to it as possible. Or make judgments on what they believe the law would rule if covered by our Constitution. That isn't true today I'm sorry to say. Judges seem to rule on how the party they belongs to leans. There is no way a court should constantly rule 5-4 or 6-3. If they were judging like they should it should be closer to 7-2 or 8-1.

 

Why don't we just wait and see how it turns out. Iran has been goating us for years. Shooting our drones out of the skies, capturing our boats and holding our sailors prisoners. Playing chicken with our war ships, plotting attacks against our troops and we have sat back and done nothing and it's made them bolder. Plotting more attacks against us or our Allies, knowing we wouldn't do anything. Trump has let them know if they attack us we have 15 targets inside Iran we can hit that can really hurt them. They are hurting already and I don't think Iran wants to hurt anymore.

 

The last two wars this country started have been total disasters, but I'm sure this time will be different.

Exact opposite of the truth.

In reality, the US has been interfering with Iran since the 1950's.

That drone was violating Iranian airspace.

Those vessels were in Iranian territorial waters.

And where is this happening? Off the coast of Virginia and California? Or is it happening thousands of miles away, off the Iranian coast where US warships loom ominously for weeks and even months at a time? How would you feel if Iranian warships were constantly patrolling our shores and flying their aircraft up to and including our airspace? Do you think the US would just stand by and do nothing?

Our troops shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place.

You fundamentally misunderstand the situation. The US is and always has been the aggressor. The idea that Iran would intentionally seek out a conflict with the most powerful government in human history is totally asinine. It would be like a scrawny teenager picking a fight with Mike Tyson.

 

Considering Iran attacked the US embassy which is US soil first, yeah Iran did declare war on us.

 

Prove it.

 

Hahaha! Suddenly something needs to be proven.....

 

So you have no proof.

 

No it wasn't. Article III grants no power to the judiciary to interpret the Constitution.

Article III Section 2.

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising UNDER this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

None of the above includes or says anything about the power to interpret the Constitution. The judiciary's power is LIMITED to interpretation of LAWS for constitutional compliance. The 10th Amendment prohibits the judiciary from asserting powers not specifically granted to it by the Constitution.

10th Amendment.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

The judiciary (paid employees of The People) was established to serve The People (the employer) via the contract called the Constitution (an employment contract for which each employee is bound by Oath to protect, defend and preserve the contract). Imagine if you hired an employee and the employee was bound to the employment contract as a condition of employment (SOP). Do you really believe any employer would give the employee the right to interpret the employment contract as the employee sees fit? Do you believe the framers were that stupid?

There is no "if". If a law is not constitutionally compliant, it is null and void from inception, otherwise it is valid. And that is what the judiciary must rule if and when a law (or a portion of it) is legally challenged.

And/or on whatever creative "interpretation" they can come up with, such as that corporations (a paper created fiction) have the same protected rights as human beings and that money (another paper created fiction) = speech. Not to mention that everyone is equal under the law (14th Amendment) except government servants who were granted qualified and absolute immunity by the judiciary. Just some examples of judicial "interpretation" (lunacy). These decisions created (case) law and amended the Constitution, 2 additional powers never granted to the judiciary as a result of the seized power of "interpretation" of the Constitution in Marbury v Madison (1803).

 

Take a deep breath and calm down, Ethereal. There isn't any 'war' with Iran, and there isn't going to be one, either, unless the Islamo-Nazi priesthood that rules Iran is even crazier than I've imagined it to be.... They may be pining for the day they get to go to 'Islamo-heaven' to enjoy the 72 virgins and young boys, etc., but, truth is, they've got it pretty damned good while sitting on their asses in Tehran right now, telling everyone else what to do....

Look: the Russians and the Chinese will 'talk them off the ledge', a few weeks will go by, and then everything will go back to 'normal'. The Iranian 'priesthood' can always find another general to command their Quds murderers in Iraq, and we Americans can focus on our own political civil war, which is about to heat back up in Congress in a matter of days.

Be patient! We Americans are intent on destroying ourselves, and in this whole destructive drama, Iran is nothing but a third-rate irritant....

. "Dude, nobody takes me seriously when I wear this f*cking HAT!"

 

The leaders of Iran, especially the generals and supreme leader are SH%%%G in their pants. Trump is now making it clear that he is targeting the decision makers of all these hostile acts against US which have resulted in hundreds of American deaths over the years. So now all these generals realize they are targets when they decide to retaliate LOL. You imagine? being one of these generals or supreme leader talking big but then going home and puking at the thought of a missile meeting you head on? LOL

These guys now have a dilemma. Retaliate and face death, your death, not the people under you. Not retaliate and come across as weak and lose grab on power.

so let's see...

Iran has no way to hurt United States, they are powerless. They have no capabilities to hurt us in our homeland and if they attack military bases in middle east, the response will be catastrophic and will end in deaths more of their leaders. The American air superiority and ability to use drones and launch long range attacks is unrivaled, Iran will just be embarrassed. Russia and China will not intervene, just talk.

In the end, Iran will just need to suck it up. Qassem Soleimani was responsible for his own death. If he hadn't participated in the killing of hundreds of Americans over past decades and continued to orchestrate hostile acts against Americans, he could be alive today. He chose to do what he did and it got him a swift, painless death. Not bad huh? he was blasted so was painless, already an old man and now he can go as a martyr. Why complain? beautiful ending...