Louisville police officer sues Kenneth Walker, boyfriend of Breonna Taylor, for emotional distress,

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Space_Time, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2015
    Messages:
    8,770
    Likes Received:
    1,307
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not sure how far this will get. He'll probably be portrayed in an unsympathetic manner by the media. After all, she died:
     
  2. Libby

    Libby Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2017
    Messages:
    8,000
    Likes Received:
    14,221
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    ROFL. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. "Stupid lawsuits" shouldn't be the exclusive property of crazed leftwingers, so sure, let this guy poke back at them.
     
  3. struth

    struth Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    good for him. that boyfriend put this horrible thing in motion
     
  4. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    20,059
    Likes Received:
    12,011
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If the boyfriend didn’t shoot wildly at the door, his girlfriend would still be alive.
     
    Moolk, HB Surfer, Buri and 2 others like this.
  5. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,259
    Likes Received:
    2,541
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Good for him, take the offensive.
     
  6. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How dare a lawful gun owner use that gun to defend his home!
     
    DEFinning, AZ. and Mr.Incognito like this.
  7. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    6,035
    Likes Received:
    4,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, and how dare that cop defend himself.....

    Plain fact of the matter is that both Mr. Walker and Mr. Mattingly had a right to self defense in that situation. When looking at each POV they both did the right thing.

    Some times Rights clash, that doesn't nullify them. Blaming either side for "being in the wrong" in situations like this is in itself wrong because it is narrow sighted and blind. Unfortunately this is the normal state for most people.
     
  8. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I’m not saying the cop had no right to defend himself. The warrant, with as many problems as I have with it, gave him the legal right to be there. The problem is that this civil suit is the height of ludicrous and I see posters her cheering it on.

    It shows a clear bias in favor of police officers over private citizens and unfortunately that bias gets even more blatant when the citizen is black.
     
    DEFinning, AZ. and Mr.Incognito like this.
  9. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2017
    Messages:
    27,548
    Likes Received:
    18,830
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That **** is funny...

    Watch this space when the stupid election lawsuits fly this week...
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2020
    DaveBN and AZ. like this.
  10. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,452
    Likes Received:
    938
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This has nothing to do with his race.
     
    HB Surfer likes this.
  11. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I think it has a lot more to do with race than many posters on this forum would be willing to admit.
     
  12. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,452
    Likes Received:
    938
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The media and the lawyers for that idiot that shot at the police want this to be a about race. That loser should be under the jail.
     
  13. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    How do you feel about the 2nd amendment and castle doctrine?
     
  14. Vote4Future

    Vote4Future Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2008
    Messages:
    5,010
    Likes Received:
    1,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There are definitive police reforms that we should all be talking about. I do not support defunding the police or any of that other nonsense that strips them of their powers putting their lives at greater risk, but we could use a little common sense and learn much from these horrific situations.
     
  15. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    6,035
    Likes Received:
    4,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is nothing wrong with having a bias in favor of police officers over a private citizen. And the opposite is true also. I think you bringing the persons skin color into it is part of the problem though. No one had mentioned the race of either person involved in this until you brought it up. There was talk of "crazed leftwingers" though. In other words the posters were cheering on about "leftwingers" getting what they dish out brought back to them. It was about political party differences. And then you brought up the race card. You believed their posts to be about them being racist against black people. When you had absolutely no reason to other than your belief that you were hearing from what you believe to be rightwingers. Which to you are racists. In other words you are projecting what you believe to be true onto what people are actually saying.
     
  16. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,354
    Likes Received:
    4,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yea that is great, but a very major point is LE had a warrant.
     
  17. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When I see posters that strongly support the 2nd amendment and castle doctrine suddenly change their tune, I start to ask myself why. Turns out there’s a long history of gun rights advocates that feel less inclined to support that when they might have to advocate for the rights of a black person.

    You’re right that no one in here mentioned race before me, but that just means there’s people round here that know to say the quiet parts quietly.
     
    DEFinning likes this.
  18. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,354
    Likes Received:
    4,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Take race out of the equation. What are the facts then? They're still the same aren't they?
     
  19. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    See my post addressing that.

    No knock warrants shouldn’t exist by the way. Just in case my post didn’t make that clear.
     
  20. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Facts pertaining to what? What did you think my post was about?
     
  21. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,354
    Likes Received:
    4,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What people want, and what does exist are different things. The fact of the mater is no knocks do exist and LE does use them.
     
  22. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And the predictable results happen. With no drugs in the apartment and no arrest warrants, do you think that man would have had reason to fire if he knew the people at the door were police? Of course not.
     
  23. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    6,035
    Likes Received:
    4,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think you missed a part of my post. I told you why people are cheering for the cop to sue. It is a valid reason...even if it is imo a dumb one. It is a reason that had nothing to do with race. They have not once said that Kenneth did not have a Right to defend himself or that he did not have a right to own a gun, they did say that he should not have shot blindly through the door...which by the way is consistent with gun rights advocates stances. One of the main rules of gun owners is to never shoot blindly. Always be sure of what you ware shooting at. To do otherwise is likely to get someone innocent killed and you rightfully landing up in prison. And they apply that to everyone that holds a gun. Doesn't matter the skin color.

    As for your last sentence....such a stance puts everyone as suspect of being a racist. No one is innocent of it. It is a cop out. It is an avenue to call people that you disagree with racists when there is no evidence of such. And by doing so you are allowed to dismiss what they say because anything coming from a racist is not to be believed. To be discarded and dismissed out of hand. It is a form of protection for yourself also. It protects your opinions and ideology from being challenged and from you having to look at the possibility that they other side might...just might...have a valid reason for what they have said or done.
     
  24. DaveBN

    DaveBN Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    5,999
    Likes Received:
    3,243
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If someone is violently beating down my door and they haven’t identified themselves as having a valid reason to do so, I know what is on the other side of that door. Violence; and there is no reason in the heat of the moment that I or most other people would wait for that violence to enter their home before acting to stop it.

    Your claim that this lawsuit is dumb is antithetical to your claim that it is valid. If it was reasonable to say that this man broke the law then he should have been convicted of such.

    When I see logical inconsistencies I start to wonder what the reason is. You don’t have to say the N-word in order to be a racist. Racism is far more than that. It is bias and it is action. You can set the bar at “All black people are bad” if you like, but that lacks the subtlety that the forms of racism take.

    This man is not being sued because he acted inappropriately. This man is being sued because a black man dared to defend his home and loved ones from the violent authority of a white man.
     
  25. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    6,035
    Likes Received:
    4,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually there is. 1: To ensure that someone innocent is not on the other side of that door. (for all you know the person on the other side banging on your door is just trying to get away from someone trying to kill them for instance...people have even shot their significant others due to this mistake because they thought it was someone trying to break in) 2: It is actually illegal in many states (not all) to shoot someone beating on your door, through your door. Self defense requires that you be in immediate danger to life or limb. No one can harm you inside your home when they are outside your home.

    There's two reasons right there. Both quite valid and both are the reason that gun instructors will always tell you to never shoot blindly through your front door. In fact they will ALWAYS STRESS that you never ever ever shoot blindly and that you always make sure of what you are shooting at and what is beyond what you are shooting at.

    My statement had to do with the reason that some posters support this lawsuit (that of political ideology differences). It had nothing to do with whether the lawsuit itself is valid or not valid.

    Actually if he did shoot blindly through the door then he did act inappropriately. A person can act inappropriately without breaking the law. Your "logical inconsistencies" has more to do with your lack of knowledge about gun handling than it does with any actual logical inconsistency. Because of that lack of knowledge you are filling in the blank areas with your own personal bias. "That this MUST be because the guy is black who dared defend himself against white authority."
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2020

Share This Page