Lybia : migrants sold as slave

Haftar visited a Russian aircraft carrier off the coast of Tobruk from where he held a video conference with Russian defence minister Sergey Shoigu. Italian State TV RAI reported that Haftar signed an agreement whereby Russia would build two military bases near Tobruk and Benghazi.

Russian state media did not mention the agreement, but confirmed that Russia would get a foothold in the south of the Mediterranean. The move would also step up the foreign presence in the Eastern part of Libya, where Emirati and French air forces have been reportedly operating since March from the Al-Khadim Airport in the city of Marj, Haftar's headquarters.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/01/russia-endgame-libya-170116061913370.html

 

Haftar studied in the USSR and he speak Russian. But he is an Arab and it isn't possibly to trust him fully. Maybe it's kind of a game. Russia is very important gamer on the Middle East. It's very difficult to hide base building so I don't see a reason to secret this information. But Russian media of the second tier really write about it as a real fact.

 

We'll see. I think Russia is also talking about a diplomatic solution in Yemen.

 

Illegal aliens are parasites that come to the US for money and can get on welfare by having a child born in the US.

There's no cause to focus on violent religion only when there's a huge plundering going on.

If they are really Christian, it seems to me they wouldn't behave this way.

By the way, Mexicans are not descended of tribes native to regions north of the Rio Grande. And if you think "we need them," you've never been a low skill laborer displaced because of them.

Lucky you.

And plenty of them pay smugglers to get here by carrying drugs on their backs. Lovely people, indeed.

You have to be pretty out of it to call house burglars lovely people.

Maybe you just get your lawn mowed on the cheap?

 

Aristotle said, "Pan Metron Ariston", which means everything within moderation is best. In other words keep away from extremes. Unfortunately when the pendulum swings too much to one side in politics, as it's doing with the liberal new world order, then to balance it out, the pendulum swings too much to the other side.

Both of these extremes are toxic, especially in politics. The end result is usually war, as we have seen in the last century.

 

I'm guessing that this is why Russia doesn't have any problems with its Muslims, but I might be wrong. I really don't know much about the Russian Federation:

1- The Orthodox Church doesn't believe in proselytizing and imposing itself on others, so proselytizing is against the law in Russia. The only faiths fully recognized, and which have always been part of Russia... and therefore do not require special permission to build new houses of worship are the Orthodox Christians, Orthodox Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists.

2- The Republics the Muslims live in are historically theirs, and they are free to form their own laws... to a certain extent, so they're not imposing themselves on the majority of the Russian population who are Orthodox Christians. Also they are not manipulated economically the west did with the lands they colonized.

3- Also Russia doesn't have the arrogance common in the West of seeing their own standards as superior, and trying to impose them on others. If they did, I doubt that those Republics would be part of the Russian Federation today.

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My father was an illegal alien at a time Eastern and Southern Europeans were people non gratis in the US. At 27 he owned three restaurants, and became an extremely wealthy man... and he worshiped the ground he walked on and the opportunity that was given him. Kennedy changed that discriminatory law when he became president.

My priest would go to Mexico each year with students to build a house for them. He said we can't imagine the poverty, and the gratitude of these people ... so let's just cut it out. If we didn't want the Mexicans, then we would have legalized drugs, so Mexico wouldn't be run by criminals today making their fortunes by selling drugs to Americans.

 

Sobo everyone is mixed, but some have more mixtures of some tribes, and others of other tribes... This doesn't mean that people shouldn't retain their cultural diversity and their unique ethnic mixture. Of course they should, since every group has some ability that can be contributed for the betterment of humanity.

Even though too much intermarriage within people is considered unhealthy since it can lead to abnormalities, it can also lead to genius and talents.

 

Your dates are off, but that's understandable since only parts of history are taught in the US. There was no Roman Catholic Church before the schism of the 11th century. There was only one Christian Church. Islam started around the 7th century during the time of Justinian, and it advanced rapidly into the lands of the Eastern Roman Empire.

Contrary to common beliefs, Constantine had three claims to fame.

1- He legalized Christianity in the 4th century, and ended the persecutions.

2- He brought all the bishops together so they could form a doctrine of Christian beliefs. It's called the Creed.

3- He founded New Rome on the Greek town of Byzantium, and it retained Greek knowledge and civilization for one thousand years. Italy in the mean time suffered with the invasions, which I believe had to do with climate change, and the depletion of the Roman population. One of the invaders was the Goths, and they were Arians which was a Christian heresy. They went into Spain, and today the Muslims are claiming that they are the real descendants, and that Spain was taken from them. ​

As for Sunday and the holidays, it was a Greco/Roman world then, so in order to facilitate the people who were converting en masse, Christian holidays were established on the same day as the pagan ones. Also Christianity adopted many of the pagan customs. Christmas for instance was substituted for the pagan 'Saturnalia', and because the British would get drunk that day, and commit all types of offenses and crimes, Christmas was banned in the US.

Today there's a town in northern Greece that still puts on animal heads to celebrate Saturnalia. I've seen it done in other places as well.

 

Define helping them prosper. Europeans aren't reproducing enough to maintain their population.

The population of the third world didn't explode like this until we started enabling their behavior with charity, including mass immigration.

 

Soppy pap.

Plenty of people have parents who were illegal alien criminals so selectively invoking a kewl dood isn't a call for mass open border tidal waves.

My uncle came here legally at the age of 17 and now owns some 15 apartment buildings. What's your point?

Your priest? What does he have to say about your support of rampant lawbreakers who mooch off the system and take jobs that they don't have a right to? Is that what the Catholic Church does now?

We don't legalize drugs because they're dangerous, Einstein. What kind of poor reasoning is this? We have rampant drug issues in this country in part due to our lack of putting our foot down with people that manufacture, smuggle, and deal heroin and meth. At minimum they should have lengthy prison sentences. What would be best is to try them all the kill the guilty ones.

 

What are you trying to get at here? You don't seem to understand the difference between incest and marrying within your own ethnic or racial group.

No we aren't all mixed. Have you ever taken DNA tests? I have. I'm of European stock. Period.

You're right, intermarriage is unhealthy: It can cause transplantation match issues in sick people, mixed kids are known to have identity problems, and cultural and racial intermarriages are known to last of shorter duration and divorce more often than homogenous ones. Furthermore, half-white/half-black (and undoubtedly also half-Latino) kids have average IQs lower than the white average.

Now of course, you have the definition of intermarriage here completely confused. You think it means the opposite of what it means.

Definition of intermarriage
1: endogamy
: marriage between members of different groups

 

Whereabouts in Europe does your bloodline come from? England, Ireland, Scotland, Spain Greece, Italy....?
Hybrid vigor is a benefit conferred by interbreeding.

 

Constantine did not create islam because he was already dead when islam came to be.

 

Russians are not having babies either and ilsam represents 1 out of 5 Russians already. So it is a matter of time before islam takes over russia too.
A couple decades ago Putin was offering Russian women money to have babies ,don't think many took him up on his offer though.

 

Sorry, 280 years .....

 

No problem, we have spared before and we will spar again!

That is the point of a political forum IMO, I just hate when people either a) lie (not saying you did) or b) become emotional at a difference of opinion.

Hope you had/have a great Saturn's day!

 

I think we are different though, I guess only time will tell but we have created an "empire" far less under our thumb than any empire of old.

The only thing that pisses us off is if you don't let your people make your own decisions, which we are finding out is not always a good thing.

Empires of old have gotten involved for MUCH less reason, that is why a lot of Americans see "American Imperialism" as simply us "Being a police force that makes sure the people run their own nation"

I have traveled to over 25 Nations now and I can tell you, a lot of the world NEEDS and WANTS a strong leader to make decisions for them. That is why America is often coming off as the bad guy. We think "Democracy" is a right and a want by every person on the planet.

I can say first hand, it is not. But back to the topic, even most Americans who are super Pro "American Empire" (non isolationists) do so for a completely altruistic reasoning. They just don't see what their actions are doing. This to me is much different than Britain claiming "modernity", Spain claiming "Christianity", Muslims Preaching "Islam" or Romans preaching "Non-Barbarism".

That's why I a proud to be an American personally, I do think stint of Isolationism would be a good thing for both us and for the world. But I know the people of this nation and we are FAR FROM being a second rate country.

Yes, America has valley's where we need to take care of the poor more than Europe, but we also have higher peaks than Europe. That is the competitive atmosphere of America that I really do love. I can see however how those that aren't competitive don't

And no, I don't come from money and my father died before I was 19.

 

Gaddafi wanted to get off the Petro-dollar, this is all well documented, he wanted to create an African bank to help the poorer African nations without have to rely on World Bank, IMF, or non-African organizations. Obama helped liberate Libya, now they have slave markets, pathetic and ironic...

 

Obamba is the cause for many problems in the world.
Hope we will never hear from him again.