Majority of ‘270 doctors’ who signed letter demanding Spotify take action against Joe Rogan are not

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  1. Hollyhood

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    The majority of the 270 signatories to an open letter to Spotify accusing Joe Rogan of pushing 'anti-vax misinformation' on his podcast - with one branding him a 'menace to public health' - are not medical doctors.

    Hundreds of doctors and scientists signed the letter, published January 10, that called on the streaming giant to adopt a misinformation policy after the comedian hosted the controversial Dr Robert Malone last month.

    Only 87 of the signatories are medical doctors. Malone himself has an MD from Northwestern University.

    ome of the other medical professions represented include: Dr. Christine Garvey, a Western New York-based veterinarian; Dr. Colleen Trecartin-Frost, a dentist from New Jersey; Autumn Schuster, a social worker at the University of California at Irvine; Korinne Bricker, a 'COVID-19 laboratory supervisor', as well as a host of teachers, engineers and psychologists.

    A few of the people signing the letter also work on podcasts like Rogan's.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ding-Spotify-action-not-actually-doctors.html
     
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    Isn’t daily mail a right wing source with skewed and unreliable reporting? It’s almost like people in general might have serious problems with COVID misinformation.
     
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    They are certainly accused of such by the very same people who would stand on a claim that, in the context of a medical argument, 'doctors' have such-and-such opinion without stating that they aren't in fact medical doctors (or even bothering to ascertain that in the first place).

    I agree with suppressing blatantly obvious COVID lies, such as QTard myths about preventing COVID by taking off-the-shelf livestock dewormer or that facemasks don't work. But shutting down all discussion simply because it might contradict the federal government's position is a Marxist form of population control I wont support. At this point in the COVID fight, the fascists of cancel culture operating within big tech aren't doing anyone any good. We have to be able to talk about things, reference the past, speculate on the future, comment on what worked what didn't and what might, and if the progressive cult of 'what I say goes until I change my mind' keeps pressing its boot down on us then all dialogue will become impossible and all we'll have is a North Korean style state controlled propaganda consortium starving us from independent thought.

    Heh, want an example of this moonbat absurd crusade to squash free thinking? I'm banned from Reddit's r/Coronavirus sub, the largest of its kind which is operated by Reddit admins and directly coordinates with the CDC as well as other entities. Why did I get banned? One post and one post only. I pointed out, with sourced fact from the CDC director herself, that the [then] May 2021 unmasking shouldn't happen. I said that I agreed with the CDC director that [then] not enough was known about Delta transmissiblility within vaccinated persons and that in lue of this lack of information all masks should stay on. They banned me for 'COVID misinformation'. Yes you read that right, telling people to keep their masks on was 'COVID misinformation'. But was it really? Of course not. All I had done was disagree with the Brandon Administration's order to unmask America. I went against the government's position and Reddit, as an agent of the government, silenced me. And of course we all know what happened after that, Delta wrecked America. And even though months later several high profile doctors, including our own Surgeon General, have spoken up to say the May order was an obvious mistake, that subreddit will not remove my ban. This is just one of countless examples of why the outright suppression of opinion (in my case it was fact) is a disastrously stupid thing to do.
     
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    This reminds me of the story in Rolling Stone and other propaganda rags regarding the Ivermectin use in Oklahoma last summer. Pure propaganda to protect the crumbling Official Narrative.

    Once again conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact. :lol:
     
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    Are… are you seriously bragging to me about getting banned for spreading COVID misinformation?
     
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    It doesn't look like they ever claimed to be. All the signatories to the original petition/letter are clearly listed with their actual roles and qualifications. This seems like an all too common example of the Daily Mail rag spinning up a non-story for click-bait purposes.

    https://spotifyopenletter.wordpress.com/2022/01/10/an-open-letter-to-spotify/
     
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    Well.... it worked.... we clicked, didn't we??
     
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    LOL, OP fail.

    Not all those who signed the letter claimed to be medical doctors. But of course, antivaxxists fell for misinformation yet again.
     
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    Ummmm, the OP has been proven to be a lie. You have terrible luck with believing antivax information.
     
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    Are... are you having problems with reading comprehension? Telling people to keep their masks on in May 2021, when barely 1/3 of the country had its 1st dose, when Delta was just reaching the US, when it was absolutely unknown if the vaccine would even protect against Delta much less help stop its spread, is not misinformation. Its just what Marxist 'think what I say or we'll come for you' progressives considered misinformation at that time because at that time the Brandon White House wanted people to take their masks off.

    Even the mother ****ing CDC director herself said, in May at the same time as the White House ordered the guidance change, that due to unknowns masks should stay on. But the Brandon White House wanted masks off (have you asked yourself why?) and so Walensky was sat down and then, in June, she fell in line with Democrat marching orders and said masks weren't necessary. Except at this point Delta was surging out of control and so then, in July, she reversed her position again and said what was finally confirmed that, yes, fully vaccinated people spread Delta and should keep masks on.

    From the start the proper course of action was obvious. We know masks work outright, but at the time we didn't have any knowledge on how the vaccine would work against Delta. From a purely cautionary standpoint at that time, and in a state of absolute lack of information, the May 2021 order to unmask NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Tell us how recognizing that truth is 'COVID misinformation'. Go ahead, tell us.
     
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    Oh my god you are doubling down on this aren't you?
     
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    Exactly.

    Those 270 Were NEVER Claimed to be ALL M.D.s
     
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    Explain how its misinformation or you're getting a permanent spot on my ignore list for being so ignorantly divisive.
     
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    I don't see a link to CNN here. Um ... maybe it's invisible?

    How about Forbes? They aren't left-biased.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...ence-covid-19-misinformation/?sh=41b0f8af68fc

    "... over 270 scientists, doctors, nurses, and other health professionals ..." -- No one ever claimed that they were all doctors. This entire thread is based on the usual right wing bee ess.

    :blahblah:
     
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    I'm sorry but you're bragging about engaging in misinformation. Nobody is denying early in the pandemic we didn't know how the virus spread, so masks were temporarily said to be ineffective. But now that we know how the virus spreads it's imperative to wear masks. So I don't care if you put me on an ignore list. Because you're bragging about your ignorance on how the disease works. Now two years into the pandemic.
     
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    We fear what we don't understand.
     
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    This attitude:

    Leads directly to this outcome:

     
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    Absolute bullshit guy. But you can have another chance, read this time and try again.
    1. We knew instantly this was an airborne spreading virus, talk about 'misinformation' /eyeroll.
    2. The CDC's position on masks has evolved side by side with bureaucratic meddling. When government interests wanted to stockpile masks and also have them diverted to hospitals, the CDC told people not to bother using them, this was 29-Feb-2020 through 2-Apr-2020.. When the government couldn't control the lie about transmission anymore they started recommending masks for everyone, this was on 3-Apr-2020, and did not lessen that guidance until 13-May-2021. Then after Delta's massive surge the CDC reengaged its masking recommendations on 27-Jul-2021.
    3. I'm not bragging, I'm pointing out a fatal flaw in the effort to suppress misinformation: taking the task too far. There was zero medical, scientific, or statistical evidence to justify the May 2021 unmasking guidance, even the CDC director herself said so before being forced to retract and then to return to her original position after it was obvious she was right. The only motivator in this decision was the Brandon Administration's desire to have people unmask, that's it.
    So the question once again: How is it 'COVID misinformation' to recognize that the smart and cautious play, in liue of an absolute vacuum of information and onset of a new variant, is telling people to keep their masks on? How is that the misinformation but the White house ordered May 2021 unmasking order, which was based no medical/scientific/statistical evidence whatsoever, not the misinformation? Explain.
     
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    So basically you want me to explain to you the idea of when mask mandates were needed? And how they decided to unmask even though the pandemic was still going on? My gosh you really don’t understand why masks are needed and you’re bragging about it.
     
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    Fake or not, 270 is not even a drop in the bucket. Not sure why it's considered news worthy to be honest.
     
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    Antivaxxists are exactly like conspiracy theorists. No explanation is ever proof to them. The goalposts just keep moving.
     
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    Unfortunately it does seem that way. But I think they need it that way too. They can’t change their beliefs because if they do? What’s left for them?
     
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    I don’t think you’re actually reading what you’re responding to. Apex is PRO mask and thought (correctly) that the cdc jumped the gun in removing mask requirements early last year.
     
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    You two are really frustrating. Neither I, nor my posts, are anywhere near the position of anti-vaccine. I don't think either of you really read what you're engaging in.
     
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    Thank you. Mellow.
     
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