Majority of ‘270 doctors’ who signed letter demanding Spotify take action against Joe Rogan are not

Huh?
WRONG, Again! Repeat WRONG, AGAIN!
Why so Personal?
What is up with the Insulting Flamebait, and use of the Personal Pronoun "You"?
Wow. :smh:

I would suggest that one ratchet back the venom.
Why would one accuse a fellow member of...
"just reflexively hiss and spit at anyone who dares cross the DNC narrative"
...in such a personal (and insulting) way?
Why fly off the handle and attack other members in such a Personal Way?
(Assuming, of course, that continuing to enjoy posting privileges is relevant to one).
^Just a word to the wise.

And, speaking of Jimmy Dore.
Don't make me laugh.
This, is a perfect description of Jimmy Dore, from one who knows him well:

He's a reactionary. A class reductionist. A Trump supporter. A sexual harasser. A right wing propagandist. And someone who peddles strategy that is doomed to fail as if his true goal is to make money off of a right wing audience by pulling the Dave Rubin grift of pretending to be a progressive who just happens to take every position against what Democrats and progressives in power are doing.

 

AJ he's not a Trump supporter, and he's not right wing.

Saying otherwise changes nothing.

 

Yup...
2+2=5 and the Sun Rises in The West...

Saying otherwise changes nothing.
Sure thing.

 

You need to re-read the gentleman’s post. You have misunderstood. He did not in any part of his post promote or disseminate ANY misinformation. Please read it again for content.

 

I think it would be interesting for any of the 270 signatories or any of the critics of Rogan and Malone to cogently articulate exactly what was said on the podcast that was factually incorrect from a scientific perspective and them demonstrate with empirical evidence why it was factually incorrect.

It seems like that would be a better argument….

 

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I think it would be interesting to find out if you actually read the open letter, where examples of what Dr. Feelgood said... with a link to a Forbes article that expands on many of the same points, in a humorous way....

I think we are covered on what the now over 1k medical professionals are objecting to...

 

Of course I have read it. Can you cite something specific cited in the letter that is scientifically incorrect and provide counter evidence?

Here is a link to it if you haven’t read it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/spotif...com/2022/01/10/an-open-letter-to-spotify/amp/

 

I can't scientifically refute rampant stupidity.... but calling the COVID vaccines experimental after approvals across the world is enough for declaring this guy a propagandist hack, IMHO...

I'll leave it to the legal eagles at Spotify if that breaks any term of service... I wouldn't intentionally listen to bullshit like that, and if it came on during something I was listening to, I would turn it off ...

Salute to the medical professionals for bringing this to the attention of the hundreds of millions of people who don't listen to Joe Rogan...

 

Meanwhile the Fascists that pose as our government just shut down monoclonal antibody treatment.... putting themselves between doctors and patients. The treatment that worked so swimmingly for Rogan and Rodgers is now illegal. We are ruled by murderous monsters. I wonder how much Pfizer paid these scum to do this to the American people.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/25/us/florida-closing-monoclonal-antibody-treatment-sites/index.html

 

Because it's been determined to be not effective for the current variant.... JFC.... is that so hard to understand?

Maybe you'd be happier if they just upped the recommended dosages??? Yes, I'm sure that makes the most sense...

If we get a new variant, I'm sure they'll check to see how your magic beans do against it...

 

Determined by WHOM? Are you listening and believing again?

How many times do these people have to be proven wrong before you become skeptical Ego?

When they told you it could never come from the Wuhan lab, you listened and believed.
When they told you masks did not work, you listened and believed.
When they told you they were wrong and that masks did work, you listened and believed.
When they told you alternative treatments did not work, you listened and believed.
When they told you racism was bigger health crisis than Covid, you listened and believed.
When they told you the vaccine would prevent the spread, you listened and believed.

Is there anything that they tell you that you won't believe?

The staggering long term consequences to our children from these fascists is only starting to emerge. Doubling of suicides, mental illness and drug addiction and this is just beginning. Damage that cannot be undone.

 

By the people trained to make that decision.... the ones you fear...

I'll never understand why the RW prefers treatment to prevention.... as long as I live, which I expect to be longer now due to my vaccines...

 

Yes the only thing that matters is who long YOU live. Who gives a damn of what the cost to children is. SMH.....

 

The larger point being made is lost. Regardless if the media headlines presented it as 270 "Doctors", which is exactly what they did; It's still incumbent on you to drill down on any news article from any source left or right to realize the media sensationalizes headlines all the time. That should be a shock to nobody. The fact that 270 people signed a petition to have Joe Rogan's podcast removed is the REAL problem here. If you don't like the information being provided on a podcast; nobody is forcing you to listen to it. The act of listening to Joe Rogan talk to the variety of people he does is completely consensual. These 270 people should be ashamed for trying to force his podcast off the air, its completely anti-American to do so. And guess what? If you listen to Joe Rogan and take everything said there at face value you are a goof ball as well. Do your own research and make your own decision. As far as far leftist trying to cancel ideas and thoughts they don't like? Grow the **** up.

 

Bold #1 - Didja READ the letter/petition?? I'm going no, if that's what you think they specifically called for...
Bold #2 - Does that apply to people trying to ban legitimate racial discourse in this country?

 

LOL Right! I'm anti mask and he was even pissing me off. It's like dude, is it too much to actually read what you're responding to?

 

Yes I did. They did not specifically ask for the cancellation but they are leveraging pressure at Spotify for it. The implication is clear if not stated. Otherwise what is the point of the letter if not to pressure Spotify in removing JR from their lineup or curtailing his speech? Its clear they are not the only voice unhappy with his podcast as well.

I am not sure what your question of Racial discourse has to do with the Joe Rogan Podcast?

 

Can you cite an example previous to Covid vaccination of an mRNA vaccine being used in humans under an EUA or license by the FDA? Can you cite a previous mass vaccination campaign with ANY vaccine where 2-4 doses were used in 12 months to mitigate a viral pandemic? We are testing a whole host of previously untested hypotheses with these vaccines. Experimentation is more than test tubes in a lab. Anyone not able to accept the FACT this process is experimental is not basing their opinions on tenets of the scientific method.

It is true the experimentation is in many ways “successful”. It is concluding that many lives will be saved with Covid vaccines. But it IS experimentation. It’s not debatable.

How do you know it’s BS? Because someone told you it was? Do you know the open letter contains BS? Probably not, because you appeal to authority and don’t check the veracity of claims of those authorities. That’s the difference between Rogan and the sources you appeal to the authority of. Rogan educates people and tells them to do their own research. Your sources make false claims and wish to silence information that conflicts with their often false information.

Here is the prime example from the open letter. Quote from the letter referring to Rogan’s statement:

Of course this is not true. They are in fact gene therapy. Here are some examples of the scientific community referring to mRNA technology used in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines as gene therapy.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7076378/#!po=4.61165

Another source for referring to mRNA technology as gene therapy.

https://www.cell.com/molecular-therapy-family/molecular-therapy/comments/S1525-0016(16)30267-2

The mRNA vaccines we are using for Covid are gene therapy because they fit the definition from a biology/genetics standpoint. However, from a regulatory law perspective they are classified as vaccines. In reality they are gene therapy first and vaccines second. But applying the regulatory label of vaccine does not change the fact they are still gene therapy by biological definition. Here is a link that describes all the regulatory details

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6728416/?report=reader

An analogy may help those interested in fully understanding the subject. Let’s say I buy a Ford sedan. It is an automobile. I buy a medallion and operate the Ford under regulations applicable to cabs/taxis in conjunction with that medallion. Now I call my Ford sedan a cab or a taxi. But it is and always will be an automobile.

So the claim mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy is as disingenuous as saying gene therapies aren’t or can’t be vaccines when applied to infectious disease. Both claims are anti science and incorrect.

Bringing what to your attention? There is still no demonstrated conflict with science. In fact I just pointed out the open letter contains anti science disinformation. It’s disinformation because at least some of those signatories have the comprehensive knowledge of the issue I do and they know the quoted claim from the letter is false. This means the authorities you are appealing to are either ignorant or dishonest or a mixture of the two. This also means you are in the same science denying camp as an anti vaxxer who denies vaccine status of this technology for this use case.

Just like the CDC and nearly every US medical professional (like the ignorant and dishonest signatories to the open letter) told you NOT to wear an N95 mask because there was a short supply when in reality US mask manufacturers were piling up massive surpluses of N95 masks, laying off workers, and nearing bankruptcy because nobody was allowed to buy their masks. It is very dangerous to appeal to the authority of such people. Better to gather information for yourself and determine it’s veracity.

Anyone with an IQ over 80 should not be taking Joe Rogan’s word, or these signatories’ word for anything.

 

ironically

the truth is.... "excessive" smoking is bad, many things done to excess repeatedly day in and day out are bad

"Smokers Hospitalized Less Often for COVID-19"

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200430/smokers-hospitalized-less-often-for-covid-19

"Data in the U.S. look similar as well, according to the CDC. Among 7,000 hospitalized patients, about 1.3% were current smokers and 2.3% were former smokers, though about 14% of the country smokes."

so 95% of people hospitalized for Covid were non-smokers, that is quite a statistic, and if it was the reverse, it would be blasted from the airwaves

I do like this quote from the article though

"“There's never been a better time to quit smoking,” the FDA said."

so the FDA gets this data and that was their response

 

Good for them: