MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS SAY COLLEGES ARE BAD FOR AMERICA (YES, REALLY)

Well I dated more than one nurse, and they would always have to assist the doctor with drawing blood. I never meant all, but there are plenty that can't. My cousins husband is a neural surgeon, he certainly can't do all his home repair, and for some, they don't want to take the case of hurting their hands.

The irony here is, these same bleating posters will conjure the conspiracy that Google is making the search results against them, yet they are unable or unwilling to set their search filter. A simple search is all they have to do, yet call out others about being able to perform simple tasks.

 

Liberals want to do things like ban wood burning fireplaces in new homes in California, or limit the size of your soft drink in New York. They want to micromanage EVERYTHING.

Conservatives want government out of our lives. We’d like to cut our federal bureaucracy in half.

 

These are alternative student loans, not student loans

 

That’s simply a loan, not the same protections and pay off schedules offer under traditional student loans

 

No argument there.... Unlike many of the current crop of Dem candidates, I think college should be a little harder to get into (not easier), which would lead to more expensive educations (due to the demand). There's always been levels of education/employment in this country and getting everybody a similar level of education might throw a kink into the system...

I also believe to truly get the max value out of college (educationally), you should work a few years after college to help you determine if college is best for you and what path you might want to follow... Going straight to college after HS is wrong for a lot of the same people you mention...

 

I would never demand that government pay off my personal debt

But in this case her bad personal choices are my business

 

Abortion is murder. There are very, very few places where government needs to get involved. Protecting innocent life is one of those areas.

But conservatives don’t want to mandate what type of grocery bag you can use. Only libs like to micromanage crap like that.

 

New to me because Mad Max has always been played by a male.

 

The microplastic pollution is ruining our environment and contaminating water and ice from the Arctic Poles, the oceans and the Rocky mountains yet you feel no need to change?
Trump is no conservative because he doesn't believe in free markets yet you support him, what a paradox.

 

And the people who work at Starbucks, for some strange reason, confided in you that they want the govt to pay their loans, did they?

 

It does when colleges practice affirmative action

 

so alternative student loans are not student loans even though they are used by and for students. Okay next you will quote me with "whos yous gonna believe, me, or yer own eyes"?

 

Well, then prepare to have your mind truly blown

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jul/15/lashana-lynch-new-007-james-bond-daniel-craig

 

Bullcrap.

 

While I agree with you in basis, the problem is that not only are those who carry debt from receiving such a degree, promoting the idea that they should walk away debt free, at the expense of taxpayers, they are also the ones who will loudly complain they cannot get a decent paying job in line with their degree.

They made a choice, they should be paying the debt, and having that degree, makes them no better person than the guy who fixes the plumbing. It seems an elitist attitude comes standard with the piece of paper they receive.

 

What protections do you have under a student loan from a bank compared to one from the feds? Both have to be paid back, both will negotiate a lower payment, both will come after you if you don't pay it, only the feds will lower your credit score to zero if one defaults and the sum of the loan will be taken from family members where as a private institutions writes of the loan as non collectable

 

James Bond has nothing to do with Mad Max...sorry..

 

Over the last 30 years, the US has been on a steady decline academically. We were always in the top 10 across industrialized nation, now we are in the bottom 35.

U.S. now ranks near the bottom among 35 industrialized nations in math

 

It sure doesn't! The underestimating of the strength as referred to in the report was not a flaw that caused instant collapse. In fact, there is also a statement about workers doing post tension work on the very anchor nut that failed. It's not clear what procedure was being followed or if the tightening was even needed or directed by the "design team" and in fact it's likely it wasn't at all. The design calculations reviewed weren't actually released and as far as I can find haven't been released, so without those, there's no way to know what "mistake" was made specifically. Did you follow the NTSB reports, or no? The construction practice of building and moving a bridge into place without support is also questionable and not often used, least of all on concrete truss bridges which aren't common much these days due to their expense and weight. In this case, it appears to be an aesthetic requirement by the client, the University, to match the existing architecture. Most times a bridge is built and moved into place, it's often a steel truss or some other type of design that weighs less and doesn't require support to avoid putting stress on the static design elements of the bridge.

The cracking was the sign that was missed. And as it turns out, your source shows it was clearly a woman's fault for missing it...

https://heavy.com/news/2018/03/denney-denny-pate-figg-florida-fiu-bridge-collapse/

And here's W. Denny Pate, clearly a wom...nope a dude. Note only that, the DESIGN has HIS STAMP on it. Do you know what that means in the engineering world? It's HIS fault. That means he didn't review any potential design issues before stamping it as per HIS duty as a professional, licensed engineer. If you are putting your stamp on something, you don't trust the staff level engineers who did the work and just rubber stamp it anyway. So, I guess all male engineer's are incompetent by your standard...or since he's a white guy, you're going to give him a pass?

 

As a guy that has built over 150 bridges on Interstate and State hwy roads, there are a number of things you have right and a number of things you have wrong.

1. Correct - Ovaries did not cause the bridge to collapse. I know a number of EXCELLENT female Engineers.
2. Incorrect - Engineers DO solve problems, but they also design things.
3. Partially correct - Problems are presented by clients/customers/stakeholder, but Engineers solve those problems with design.
4. Partially correct - Yes, technicians can design things for Engineers. However, the Engineer that stamps the drawing is required to go over every little detail of the design to insure that the technician took everything into account and that the design is correct. Technicians normally do not have the education or the experience....that is why they are technicians and not Engineers yet. The person that stamps the drawing is ultimately responsible.
5. Incorrect - A 5 year old does not design or build a bridge where public safety is paramount. Bridge design IS NOT easy. There are many factors that need to be considered. Wind shear, Loading (static and dynamic), Shrinkage, Foundation strength, Vectors, Construct-ability, Clearance, Torque, Life span, and Oscillation are all things that need to be considered....plus much more.
6. Correct - Support and shoring are very important during construction and no bridge can withstand poor construction practices.
7. Incorrect - Poor construction inspection can doom a bridge to failure. However, it is the responsibility of the Engineer to describe the construction order and to specify when shoring/supports can be removed. It is also the responsibility of the design Engineer to insure that the construction practices specified are followed. The responsibility of the stamping Engineer does not just stop once the design is done. It is also their responsibility to insure that construction practices that were specified are followed and that the structure is built properly.

 

Why do you assume these people have an elitist attitude? Because some person at some point in time did? I know people in the trades who look down on white collar workers. Should I assume all tradesmen feel the same way?
I don't know any college graduates who think they are better than the guy who fixes the plumbing. Are there college graduates who do? Sure, but these people think they are better than everyone. Those people are simply arrogant pr i cks.

 

I described a typical progressive/socialist democrat bernie sanders or warren voter

And yes, they expect their debts to be paid by others

 

So how would not furthering education help this one data point you have raised? And mathematics, while important, isn't the be all end all of education. Education is about learning how to learn. Mathematics is great, but we don't need to be number 1 in every skill in order to have a great educational system in this country.

 

Opinion, not fact.

 

The loan forgiveness program offered by the Dept of Ed is contingent upon ten years of service in a low paying field for public works, it is an incentive for people to work in the low paying fields by the US govt. The person that works in the field still have to pay on their student loan for ten years before requesting the loan to be forgiven.
This information about the program is easily obtainable but according to many post there is widespread ignorance about how the program works..Congratulations on yer ignorance..