Malaysian Muslim man marries 11-year-old Thai girl

Actually muslims hold the record for the most killed, and Christians had a 700 year head start.

 

And what states allow an 11 year old to be married to a 41 year old.

 

Ohio, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Arizona, Alaska.
West Virginia, South Dakota, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, New Mexico, New Jersey, Georgia, Florida - all allow a pregnant under 16 year-old
to get permission to marry.

 

Going to need some proof on that claim. Whole lot of Christian on Christian killing in the Papal Wars, the Wars of Napoleon, the Spanish American War, the American Revolution, the War of 1812. The American Civil War, World War I, World War II ... and that's just off the top of my head.

 

Source?

I doubt that. Christians massacred about the entire northern and southern American continent to spread their Christian faith. Let me remind you they violently oppressed about the entire world at one point. Not to forget they massacred out about every other faith in Europe... from the Roman empire.. all the way to the nazi's. And now the Muslim is "a problem". I heard that before.

 

They are not marrying 41 year olds, he is in jail. They are marrying other kids. Though there will be an exception, probably in Appalachia.

Muslims have been massacring Europeans and Hindu for 1200 years, 200 before that, but they weren't muslims yet.
A death count that is popular is 270 million, I have heard more, and less, but this one seems to be accepted by more people.
I could post sites, but if you google " Muslims killed 270 million", easy search, you will have a choice of a dozen or so scholars to read.

 

These wars kill in the hundreds of thousands, we are talking many millions in muslim conquests.

 

I like to see one of them sources of that. Something rather neutral, and not some iffy Islamophobic site.

Those wars are all in the millions, probably all in the 10's of millions.

 

It's fine Mohammed said so, nice of Mohammed to wait to rape her until she was 9 or 10.

 

He was a gentleman.

 

That's why I gave you a selection.

And please, using islamophobic, is not an excuse.

 

Yes, they were violent. I never denied that. Funny that you care about the jews who fled to the ottoman empire when you justify the murder of old jewish in France. Jews had a strange relation with muslims for spains. From muslims, they were dhimmis and so inferiors but they had more often places of power than christian, so spanish during their centuries of oppression assimilated them to the oppressors. In a way, there were a wiseness to the spanish, it's better to expulse people, different people aren't made to live together, it can only lead to civil war or genocide. So it's better to expulse.

I have some difficulties to understand the sense of your sentences. I know that our government are corrupted, so what ? I can do nothing about that, and there is no political parti we can trust to not be corrupted. You say "you", no I didn't. The government of my country maybe, but I didn't. I don't care of what happens in the middle east, and I wish for them the best, as long they don't come in my country.
About Saddam Hussein and other violent dictators, I'm the "we are not world police and what happens in other countries isn't our problems". We are not world police, and it's that logic of "we must help people against terrible dictators like S.Hussein or M.Ghaddafi" that our political mediatic used against us and the Lybian and Iraqi people, because as common citizens, we have 0 citizens toward political chaos, because it can only lead to war refugees, and so insecurity and terrorism.
So yes, Saddam Hussein was a genocidal maniac, but you can reproach to western countries to have caused the war in iraq (and a lot of western countries didn't wanted to be involved in that), in a world connected, you can ignore a country.

My position about outer policy is very clear : I'm against any "world police policy", if there is dictators, genocids in the world, it's not our problem, the west isn't the world police, and I'violations. It's a noble intentions, but hell is made of good intentions. And having good intentions doesn't change the fact that if you use the wrong ways, it will lead to terrible consequences. It's something we can learn from the history of Lybia and Iraq. m against this tendancy of the western people to think their countries have to stop dictators and human right , it's extremly harmfull for the people they think they are "helping" and in a moderate and long term for the western people themselves, but I doubt that our leaders care of our own interest for a long time. The only things they care is the big corporation.

For the instance of USA, the actions of Georges W Bush didn't cause extreme damage to the iraqis but it lead too to the death of dozens of thousands of US soldiers.

I don't support anything about Israel, and you jews and muslims are boring me by trying to make it a world wide conflict. Jews are harmfull to my country when they make condemn people who call to the boycott of Israel, muslims are harmfull to my country when they start to kill jews in my country for their israelo palestinian stories.

That's a fact, arabs caused dozen of attacks in my country who caused hundred of death.

Yes summerian and babylonian loved the base 60 because you can divide it by five, six and four. They were brillant people.
But summerian, babylonian, egyptian weren't arabic, they became arabic because of the muslims invasions.

I have a lot of respect for summerian, babylonian, egyptian, persian. Iran is probably my favorite country of the middle east, I would like to visit it when things will be better.

There is very few people who managed to keep their identity after the arabic invasions in middle east and in north african. Berbers, Kabyls and Iranian are the one who kept a distinctive identity. Egyptian, most north african and every people from assyria and sumeria regions lost their identity.

Even if I don't like them, I won't blame arabs for that, my first ancestors were celtic, and unfortunately they lost their celtic roots for the latin ones, even if I like my latin origins too.

Just because it served their interest and in the end in less than one hundred years, they invaded everything from Arabia to Spain. So much "peacefull".

Charming people, they attack you, remove your king, enslave people, make you pay taxes or force you to go into the army to avoid this tax. How you think all these territories were conquered ? With hugs and kiss ?

The EU doesn't have an army, and it's not a christian organization. Most inhabitants of the EU are christians yes. And if some EU members helped in the Iraq war, the two most influent members were against and one even voted against the iraq war at UN. So you can blame spanish government, you can blame dutch government, but you can't blame EU as an organization to have any role in the iraq conflict because the EU doesn't have a total controle on the countries which are members of the EU. EU Is an economical organization, not a military one ,even if they would like, it's not the case.
And I hate EU, so it's not my love of this organization who influence me.

Of war probably, of terror, I would let the tittle of muslims, because I think that only muslims have non government organizations like ISIS and Al Qaeda (or Qaida, whatever the way you write it) who manage to kill people on dozens of different places on the planet.

Arguable. The biggest genocide commited is still probably the one commited by muslims on hindus and it's arguable. To precisely estimate the number of victims of a conflict, we need precise census of the population on regular intervals. And on most places on earth until the 20th century, there were few or no such things, making the estimation of the number of victims a very speculative domain. Furthermore, when the population double, it's logical that the number of victims in war double too, what would be probably the most interesting would be a ratio of victims per inhabitants, as it's used for the homicides. For instance, El Salvador has less homicids than China, but China has 100 time less murders when you consider the ratio murder/population.
And the first victims of the the biggest massacres which are WW1 and WW2 are too the christian.
And the US is the biggest spreader of terror on this globe.

They spoke of attacks on "refugees" (polite name for invaders). First it's self defense because the "refugees" are obviously agressors. Second, there were no death. So no sorry, I won't put on the same level muslims slaughtering dozens of people with a truck with a german putting a graffiti on a refugee center saying "go back home". Furthermore, I asked a proof in EU, not in US.

Doesn't change that I won't let muslims kill my children because Georges W Bush was a mean guy or because you're jewish/muslims war that both of you try to turn in a world war. No muslims = much less terrorist attacks, and much less unnecessary attacks.

Where we said it was about that ? You made it up. And you claimed that the spanish inquisitons killed so much people when I showed you that you lied and they killed "only" around 3000 people.

The polynesian made circumnavigation ? I never heard about that. They crossed the pacific ocean abord ships ? I never heard about that. Europe is quite far of pacific ocean, that's must explain why we didn't explored that place in the first place.

Still not the muslims who didn't did that, I already documented what a verge escapement is, it's not a spring. It doesn't change that europeans were the first to make fully mechanical clockworks, when before clockworks were relying on either mercury or water. Removing any non mechanical things from clocks was the first step to make smaller clocks, and lead to pocket clocks.

Astronomy and optics are two different things, but yes, and nobody deny the important role of Babylon in the birth of first sciences. It doesn't change that a lot of people through the world brought a lot of things. No civilization had the monopoly of science, even if I must admit I never heard too much about subsaharian african science, but it's another topic, and it doesn't mean that subsaharian african are unable to do science.

It doesn't change there is 2 millions slaves in Pakistan and a lot of Mauritania. And there is apparently still some cases of slavery in China, even if more and more rare and Japanese and South Korean multinationals aren't much better. If I'm not wrong, Samsung and Sony were involved at their time in some dirty things too. A multinational is like a legal version of a mafia, they care of money. They're not racist. They already caused industrial disaster, sold poisonous drugs or speculate on drugs.
Multinationals either western or eastern don't respect the life of people. It's not a big secret. And so ? Yes it's terrible. And what do you want to make about that ? I tried to boycott somethings when I could, and even, what could I do ? Buy things to another company who doesn't respect more people ? And I didn't had the times to make extensive research about what is the less moronic company ?
And I don't see muslims being better, I don't have a lot of money for a westerner, and I tend to buy my clothes in cheap stores (clothers company are well known to be abusive of people) and I bought my clothes at the same places than a lot of muslims. So like everybody they feed the big mean multinationals, because like a lot of people we neither have the money to buy clothers to a fancy tailor, and I would like too, neither the time to trace everything I buy.

About Kuwait, my source is that video of Ivory Coast women calling to help because they were enslaved in Koweit, as far as I know, the ivory coast government had some questions.
And Philippines had to forbid is own citizen to go to work in Kuwait.

Let me guess. You're the chairman of El Azhar ? Explain me why your opinon on Islam is so important ? You're who ? A well known scholar like El Karadawi or Zakir Naik ?
And it doesn't change a fact : you're book is talking about killing a category of people of my family. And I don't care of your interpretation, because I red it as it means, and I don't care of your interpretation, because the basic sense still mean "kill members of my family", and I still don't care of all the excuses you find. Islam is a threat to people I love.

I never spoke of an industrial age, you're making up things, I pretended they developped an early industry. And an industry is about to turn raw materials into elaborate things.

You spoke of a geared clock working either with mercury or water and you prevented that arabs invented gear clocks, when there were prior reports of chinese and greek clocks with gears. I speak of clocks working without any mercury or water and that's the case. Fully geared clocks were invented by europeans, removing any need of either mercury or water, enabling the possibility of more precise clocks (because the volume of all liquids have the bad tendancy of changing of volume with temperature change, problem a gear doesn't have) and much smaller clocks (which lead later to pocket clocks, you can't have pocket clocks with water and mercury).
I quoted you dozens of sources, evidences, and you keep speaking of springs when I show you what a verge escapement is. You're wasting my time.

They weren't the first to invent that, but they invented it yes.
There is multiple examples of things being invented multiple times. The mezoamericans civilizations were a very good example on that point because they were kept isolated from the Eurasian/african complex, and however incas for instance developped complex mathematics, without any contact with the summerian or a the greek.
Incas had a good knowledge of astronmy too, without never meeting the sumerians.

Gutenberg was first a jewelry crafter, that was centuries that european nobility and clericals printed things in wax to close confidential letters. And not europe. Gutenberg had the idea of not just printing things in wax but with ink too.

The chinese already had the idea, effectively, but there is no sources of Gutenberg travelling to China, and if some people already travelled to China, they were extremly rare and there is no sources of some european bringing back that, there were much more arabic contact with the chinese, but arabic didn't used printing before the 17th century. However, there is sources that Gutenberg worked in goldsmithing.

There is a big difference between pretending that a civilization invented something first and pretending they invented something. That's why some isolated populations are interesting to study.

 

This stuff happens all the time and used to happen in the west as well. Not news at all.

 

I saw nothing. Please provide the source.

And yup. There is something like Islamphobia around.
It would be like accepting Stormfront as a legit source about Jews.

 

Fake news. My previous point stands.

You claim Muslims are attacking you. But the thing is... Christians/Jews have been attacking Muslims for centuries, and it really aint the other way around. I gave you the examples.

The US blew up the entire country. There was literally nothing left of their justice, police, army departments. The entire country was pushed into total chaos and anarchy, on purpose. And when the US invaded and occupied that country means they are FULLY responsible for the safety of the people. The amount of carnage that happened under their watch was nowhere near them cowards US soldiers who attacked that 3rd world country over nothing.

The Christian/Jewish west supports Israel, and lets it violently ethnically cleanse the lands. It adds to the argument that Christian/Jews are attacking Muslims for centuaries and not the other way around.

It's peanuts compared to a full fledged invasion like the US did to Iraq.
The Christians/Jews simply are FAR more violent.

The descendants of the Arabs are Sumerians. You can spot it because Sumerian mythology is exceptionally closely related to the Abrahamic religions.

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fake news

Your Celtic roots and, including the religion.... was rooted out by the edge of a Christian sword.

A lot more peaceful than Christianity,.. who converted everybody by the edge of their swords.

The point was if it was Christian, which it is. I sourced it.

The west is also the biggest sponsor of terror. I mean.. the US supported Saddam Hussein unleash a WMD war against it's own civilian population. Currently their weapons end in the hands of terrorists in Syria. The US also military supports Israel ethnic cleansing Arabs in the WB. It's also the US who on purpose created anarchy in Iraq. They were the occupants and so fully responsible for that. ISIS spawned under the responsibility of the US in Iraq. And that is besides the rather big amount of nazi supporters in the US. Germany is no stranger either. Greek got plenty as well.

oh baloney. You're counting everybody who died because of sickness during that war.
Let me remind you that Christians massacred about the entire continent of North to South America like that.
That genocide was far bigger. 50 million is the first 100 years. And than it just went on and on.

Like hearing a Jew fleeing from the holocaust being labelled as an agressor. lol
Totally fake news.

GWB killed far more children than Muslims. Get real. Don't want to die,.. than don't invade. Your words.

That's how they ended up on hawaii. Your claim Chrisitians made the first seaworthy ship: fake

Last time I checked,.. I sourced that Muslims made the 1st mechanical clock, and sourced it too.
You so lost this debate

They still used optics to do so. Your claim its all western invention: fake

Well Christian/Jewish west is a lot worse. They got their own slaves and use slaves abroad too.

It aint my opinion. I used a source. You even used the same source.

And that is what matters.

 

My, My, My, Islamophobia... that's a really big word, wonder what it means.
Lets see... Islam.... Thats a religion
Hmmm…. Phobia.. That's an irrational fear.

Islam has written orders from God to enslave, convert, or kill, you, me, and our families.

I don't think that's an irrational fear.

 

I can see from your mindless quotes on the previous post, you know nothing about Islam.
I see you like to cloud the issue, instead of confronting points one at a time.

 

Not seeing a source. So I guess I just have to call your rant "fake news".

I don't see Muslim countries having such policies. That only Jewish nation however, has an ongoing policy to ethnic cleanse Arabs. That Christian nation of a US, supports that military. That same country attacks all kinds of muslim countries.

 

Not very bright are you, I gave you a choice of sources,
Naturally you use the dumb ass excuse, for anything you don't like, so you don't have to actually read it. Here is one, if you are too lazy, but of course you won't read it, just whine, they don't like Islam.

fact checking Pamela Geller 270 million killed by muslims


And All of Islam uses these policies, Allah ordered it,
naturally there are exceptions, abiet few, you should know this if you know about Islam.

 

You didn't post me any links.

The Southern Poverty Law Center have described Geller as "Islamophobic"

 

As I said, not very bright.
The post is fact checking her
The Southern Poverty Law Center is hardly a reputable gang.
Hell, they don't even know what a phobia is.

Even the FBI deleted them as a reliable source.

 

Not very bright to claim something,... and refuse to back up with a source.

source this as well.

 

Obviously your computer skills are as bad as your common sense.

Do you see where I wrote " Fact checking Pamela Geller 270 million killed by muslims.
Use your left button and slide it across the sentence, you will notice it turns blue.
Right click, and look for the word copy, Left click it.
Go to your search engine, the box where it says "search"
Put your mouse in it and click "Paste"

 

Here is a great video

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...161EA0C5458868E1A266161EA0C54588&&FORM=VRDGAR

 

why is this topic even still going on?...an american hypocritical holier than thou attitude condemning child marriage in another country while child marriage is still legal in the US...an estimated 200,000 children under the age of consent married off in the US in the last 15 years...