Man killed during FBI raid in Utah posted threats online against Biden, sources say

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  1. Izzy

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    The FBI was investigating Robertson since March yet he posted on Truth Social Aug. 6th about Biden coming to Utah.
    Where all of his posts on TS or did he use other social media sites for his other threats?
    Was the FBI tracking all of his posts since March and let him continue?
    Was he banned for these threatening posts elsewhere because he wasn't banned from TS even though TS is said to be the platform for the Aug.6th post which was only 5 days ago and TS was said to have been the site that reported him?
    ????



    'The man allegedly posted threats online against President Biden and others, including Biden's family and former President Obama.'


    "Online posts also showed an intent to kill Mr. Biden, the complaint said. In a post dated Aug. 6, Robertson allegedly wrote, "I hear Biden is coming to Utah," and that he was "cleaning the dust off his M24 sniper." The complaint showed photos of the suspect with a long-range rifle and a type of camouflage known as a ghillie suit."

    "According to the complaint, the FBI had been investigating Robertson for five months for also allegedly making threats against officials including Attorney General Merrick Garland, New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, all of whom are overseeing criminal or civil proceedings against former President Donald Trump.

    According to the complaint, Robertson wrote in a March social media post that he would be traveling to New York to fulfill his "dream" of killing Bragg."



    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-shooting-death-provo-utah/
     
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    Are Democrats incapable of running any law enforcement agency? First George Floyd, and now this 300 pound 70 year old white guy? This is a bad look.
     
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    A white dude who makes death threats and a house with firearms, being killed... is just like killing a black man, already handcuffed and faced down in the dirt.
    As if.
     
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    Facebook and Twitter.
    Curious if they were on top of his threats like TS was and suspended his accounts?




    'Craig Robertson's Facebook Posts Before Being Fatally Shot in FBI Raid'


    'According to court documents reviewed by Newsweek, Robertson posted on Facebook earlier this week that he was planning to clean "the dust off the M24 sniper rifle" after hearing that Biden was coming to Utah.

    "Digging out my old ghillie suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle," Robertson wrote in the post, according to the criminal complaint.

    'In another recent post shared on X, formerly Twitter, by journalist Aric Toler, Robertson allegedly wrote: "Perhaps Utah will become famous this week as the place a sniper took out Biden the Marxist."'

    https://www.newsweek.com/craig-robertson-facebook-posts-fatally-shot-fbi-raid-1818768
     
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    the FBI is run by a Trump appointee
     
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    The quote is below. Joe, as a star athlete in high school, probably had experience taking people behind the gym for a beating. However, when it came time to dodge the draft he became physically handicapped.

    If we were in high school, I’d take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him,’” - Joe Biden
     
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    Anyone who is not a Communist or a Fascist. Or a troll.
     
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    I knew someone would get that out of my comment.

    I don’t want a government of jack booted thugs whose reaction to everything is to automatically kill someone when it’s completely avoidable.

    Our federal authorities are at a point where they are out of control. They are conducting military type raids when it’s completely unnecessary.


    I can see conducting such an action if there is an imminent threat at that time. In this case there wasn’t.

    Wouldn’t it be smarter to apprehend this guy and interrogate him and find out if he’s involved with others or just a lone crazy kook?
     
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    His opinion is reasonable. How many innocent people and LEOs are killed in no-knock raids?
     
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    Sounds reasonable to me.
     
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    The FBI passed on several opportunities to take this guy into custody without executing a military type raid. Instead they decided to make this a huge spectacle which could have been avoided.
     
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    Well, using that same logic.
    He could have surrendered in a peaceful manner.
    He passed on this opportunity.
    Why?

    The FBI was serving an arrest warrant at the time of the shooting.

    "Hey FBI, you still monitoring my social media? Checking so I can be sure to have a loaded gun handy in case you drop by again".

    Sounds like a clean kill to me.
    Sorry.
     
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    No, the FBI was executing a full tactical, pre-dawn raid.

    If Robertson were black, you all would be losing your **** right now.
     
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    I am sorry that you feel this way.
    It does not matter to me what the ethnicity of the decedent is.
    I am saddened by this.
    If the guy had peacefully surrendered, he would still be alive.
    He would have been in some serious legal trouble, but the lawyers could have sorted it all out.
    Sounds better than being killed.
    Don't you think?
    A sad but unsurprising outcome.
     
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    Listen, I know the guy threatened to assassinate the president (among other state officials), and he engaged in a shootout with the FBI.. but should all that really be considered illegal, or is this all just more government overreach?

    It's just like that book 1984...I never actually read it, but I'm sure there's something in it that is just like this
     
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    take a knee
     
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    could have this time, except he is alleged to have pulled a gun and pointed it at the FBI
     
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    Hang on - I have been told repeatedly by the hplophiles that having a gun “levels the plying field”
     
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    ? No overtime in the budget??? Sometimes even the FBI is time strapped
     
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    It amazes me how successful the NRA myths are in America. The myth of “standing up to the government because I have a gun”. And the thing is when something like this happens people seem to get offended when it does not play out the way the myth describes
     
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    I think that's a straw man. (Or mostly a straw man argument, though I do concede that there are some gun owners who have that mentality, in an unjustifiable and absurd way)
    Gun rights supporters have never had the message that one man can (or should) try facing off against a swarm of law enforcement officers in a stand off.

    We don't have the details of the story. But without having those details, I think we can suspect the victim probably at least did something wrong, though that does not mean the officers were totally in the right. Many times when the suspect is not cooperating and they think the suspect is holding a gun, one of the officers can be too anxious to just shoot and bring the situation to an end.

    Bowerbird, we should be no more or less offended than if a law enforcement officer was the one who got killed in an identical situation but just in reverse.

    Will you agree that we, as a society, have the right to get offended when people are killed in certain situations even when that person was holding a gun?

    If someone shot a police officer just because they pulled out a gun on them, we all know that person would be headed straight to prison. No one would say "Well who cares about the death of that law enforcement officer? They were holding a gun."
     
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    If you think that you have never read any of the hplophile generated posts on the board. Again and again I have asked how people plan to “stand up to the government” to “ensure their freedoms” with a gun. What coukd they do with a gun they could not do without one. Again and again there has either been a failure to answer or a plan like this guy had
     

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