Man's inhumanity to man.

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by cerberus, Feb 10, 2018.

  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would have break your arms to call me a white supremacist. That's good for people like you to speak on a forum, you can insult people witjout getting what you deserve.

    France don't bring anything anymore to civilization for 60 years.
     
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    On that we will have to agree to differ.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Internet "tough guys" are always a joke!

    Nowhere did I actually call you a white supremacist but obviously you must have taken offense for some reason.

    France has been on the cutting edge of medicine and pharmaceuticals for the last 60 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_inventions_and_discoveries

    When it comes to transportation France developed the catalytic converter and Concorde.

    France has also been on the forefront of Technology.

    Obviously you are woefully uninformed when it comes subject matter knowledge regarding France.
     
  4. VotreAltesse

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    It's few compared to what happened during XIXth century. It's cool, but few.
     
  5. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Civilization occurs through many process of which 99.999% of them are small. Their cumulative significance on the other hand is what matters. There are a great many people alive today thanks to French medicine and hardly anyone in the civilized world today who does not have a smart card, if not several of them.
     
  6. Int_Unity

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    I agree we are walking into a disaster, however Western society has changed dramatically; I doubt the decision for capital punishment will be overturned in the future unless something remarkably tragic happens that's forces the government's hand.

    Those who are radicalised are a very small percentage, most are law abiding citizens.
     
  7. VotreAltesse

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    The dynamic is still poor. Some french inventors you mention had to exile themselve in the US.

    Furthermore beside that, there is a huge increase of debt, unemployement and insecurity.

    The futur don't look good.
     
  8. Chester_Murphy

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    I think this is the reason evil gets a foothold. I understand your intentions are good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
     
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    @Deridio_Te or anyone who would like to help me understand,


    What's wrong with the term "gurl"? I thought it was an accepted term of the progressives in our nation? Anyone want to explain why it's offensive?
     
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  10. cerberus

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    Yes, maybe, but that 'small percentage' can inflict such disproportionate conflict that they may as well be an overwhelming percentage. It's not only a Koranic instruction to spread radical Islam and Sharia dogma (ie motivated by the religion?) it's in their DNA too. Bottom line? The liberal apologists could unwittingly ensure that we all end up being a part of that 'law abiding body of citizens' you mention, the difference being we'll be abiding by Sharia law rather than statute law.
     
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    There is a MASSIVE increase in debt and insecurity in the US and unemployment is going to be on the upswing in the relatively near future.

    Under the malign influence of the BLOTUS and the fiscal malfeasance of the GOP the future of America is looking a great deal bleaker than it needs to be.
     
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    Sharia law should be outright banned; there is overwhelming evidence that it is immoral and frankly vile!
    We have laws in this country and people must abide by them.

    I was listening to the news today, and I heard that a headmaster set the motion of banning the hijab. I agree with this notion; young Muslim girls should conform with school policy as set out by the head of the school, the headmaster. A Muslim lady called up and agreed that the headmaster should be allowed to set the guidelines for the school; she went on to say that young girls should be young girls. This lady who is Muslim even prevented her son from fasting until he was 13 even though he wanted to, as she understood growing children need food.

    What I have described above is one of the many Muslim families that are compassionate and understanding and not wanting to force their beliefs down our throat.
     
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    Fighting hate with love does not always prevail sadly, however I think it is better than fighting hate with hate which society tends to favour.
    This is my opinion on the matter anyway. :)
     
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    Exactly, and that's why we should be doing whatever it takes to stop them, and we won't stop them by imprisoning them for a few months then letting them out again.
     
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    No...they should suffer.... and suffer large. I read in a Tom Clancy book years ago of a pretty good one. Fella was put in a barometric chamber and then pressurised... to what... god knows but is was dramatic and then given an explosive decompression.... which caused massive internal issues...bends par excellence...from which recovery was not possible. End effect being that the guy bascially was in permanent extreme agony and not capable of moving limbs.... that sounds pretty good.
    Death would be to quick... make them suffer...and make them suffer large...
     
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  16. The Scotsman

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    Why do people need to know.....they can disappear.....poof.....gone.....rendition returns for the favoured few.
     
  17. Int_Unity

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    I circle back to the point that this cannot be done in our country.

    Protocol 13, Article 1: Abolition of the death penalty
    The death penalty shall be abolished. No one shall be condemned to such penalty or executed.

    This includes crimes committed during a war or when the threat of war is imminent. The UK ratified this Protocol in 2002.
    Sentencing a person to death is a violation of the right to life and the right to freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment.

    Protocol extracted from https://www.equalityhumanrights.com...1-thirteenth-protocol-abolition-death-penalty.
     
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    "The stupidity of the west never ceases to amaze me, but I embrace it."
     
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    I reckon you're different than Roy Moore as well, what is he, southern baptist?
     
  20. VotreAltesse

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    I'm not even christian.
     
  21. The Scotsman

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    I think you misunderstood my post.....I wasn't advocating the death penalty....quite the opposite in fact....anyway who gives a toss about them, string the bastards up by their balls and club them to death with baseball bats. Of course we can make it nice for them and read the basic principals of human rights and crap like that whilst pounding them to meat.
     
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    A guy who participated to the bombing in Madrid had 8 years of prison, when his sentence ended, he moved to Syria where he made suffer more people.
    I'm not a big fan of death penalty, not because I will cry on some bastards, but 1) Because I don't trust politician or judge 2) The life of an innocent is too precious to be risked to be executed.

    What I dislike is disrespect to human life. When I see some murderer getting light sentence in my country, I start however to slowly my point of view. Jawad Bendaoud murdered his friend for a cellphone story, he was sentenced to 8 years of prison, 6 years after he was free, he started to traffic drugs and finally housed the guys who did the 13th november attack in Paris (Bataclan) who caused 130 death.
    What he risk for working with terrorists ? 7 years.

    That kind of laxism is an insult to the value of life. Being mercifull to the evil one is being cruel to the innocent one.

    I would notice that some countries who have very low murder rate like Japan or China have death penalty.
    It can be noticed however that Austria who have both a very low murder rate and a low suicide rate don't have death penalty. I don't know however how harsh is the justice there.

    French minister of justice said she would intervene if ISIS fighter would be sentenced to death. ISIS commited genocide, if they defend those guys, they making us accomplice of genocide.
     
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    I like your thought process I think at some point in the judicial process a degree of vengence must be allowed for public consumption. Vengence, granted is a rather basic utlitarian response to an horrific act or as you say maybe a miscarriage of justice; but in certain circumstances the state taking an extreme position may be an act for the greater good of society.....bit like the vegitarian having the odd burger and chips....it doesn't do much damage as long as its in moderation....anyway pick the bones out of that.
     
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    Vengeance must be had.
    Examples must be set.

    Allow your dog to bite you once, and he will bite you twice.

    People have to see that they can't get away with it. That there is a price to pay.

    I'm not averse to killing. The only reason I don't want the death penalty in my country is that I get way too much pleasure out of being snotty about it to the Yanks.
    But when they do these murders in the streets, I don;t want the policeman to bring them in. I want them shot dead.

    End of.

    I don't want the families who went through all that misery to again relive it on release day. I don't want to rehabilitate or give them a nice life where they can do no harm.
    Just bang. Over. Move on.
     
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    Justice should be justice; the whole point is to deter them from committing the same atrocities. I think our country needs a tougher justice system that works and doesn't allow these ideologies to continue.
     

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