Map of Kurdistan in 1919 Paris peace conference

Kurdish production is down to 75,000 bpd.. since last year.

 

we all know oil talks , and KRG has sure started using this method to flex its muscle and gain more political powers in the region ....

 

yes , its a political card used against Baghdad , which you seem clueless about !

 

Taq Taq Oil Field is just below Kirkuk, isn't it?

 

nope , it is in Silemani , and more than half of Kirkuk oil fields is not under KRG control , the rest under Baghdad's .

 

So Tag Tag is north of Kirkuk?

 

oil fields status in 2007

 

it is is located in Silamenia province , and this province is north of Kirkuk , point ?

 

I was just mistaken.. I thought Tag Tag was slightly south of Kirkuk about 30 miles.

 

I am so happy you came down a notch to apologize...
I wish you will be humble enough to retract some of the outlandish statements made in the past.

 

Alan:

Check this out......

http://www.politicalforum.com/histo...1-ancient-hurrian-sources.html#post1061028042

 

Hurrians and Mittanis are ancestors of Kurds , history has proved this in the Sumerian scripts kurds were mentioned as "Qarda" .

and Kirkuk is and has always been kurdish i myself including all my relative and families are from Kirkuk .

indeed , we don't wish to harm nobody i don't know why others always do it to us .

mind you Saddam and his army did Anfal and Halabja to us resulting in 120,000 dead we did not retaliate and never will , when in 1991 2 Iraqi battalion we captured by Peshmerga(kurdish army) , the wound of Halabja was still fresh (1988.) but instead we respected them and sent them back to their families .

 

edit: error now has been corrected

 

Hurrians and Mittanis are the ancestors of other people as well.

Kirkuk was the battle ground for three empires—the Neo Assyrian Empire, Babylonia, and Media— all of which controlled the city at various times..

So you have both Kurds and Turkmen claiming the area.

Around the time oil was discovered many arrived to work in the oilfields. According to the 1957 census, Kirkuk was 40% Iraqi Turkmen, 35% Kurdish with Arabs less than 25% of its population..

 

what a load of BS

here is the Census of 1957

dont you think you have wasted enuff space about BSing about Kurds ???

 

The last reliable census in Iraq—and the only one in which participants could declare their mother tongue—was in 1957. It found that Turkomans were the third largest ethnicity in Iraq, after Arabs and Kurds. The Turkomans numbered 567,000 out of a total population of 6,300,000. Later polls dropped "Turkoman" as a category.

Basing his estimate on the 1957 census data and a growth rate of 2.5 percent annually, Erşat Hürmüzlü, a Kirkuk-born Turkoman scholar, estimated Iraq's Turkoman population today at no less than two million Turkomans, out of a total population of 25 million.

http://www.meforum.org/1074/who-owns-kirkuk-the-turkoman-case

I think the point is that Nationalism creates problems... Look at history.

 

here is another one from an Iraqi site .


http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103750&page=17

anymore BS you have worth demolishing ?

 

the reason why kurds do not have a state of their own is because they were not nationalists back in 1923 , but things have changed and we have learned our mistakes and paid the hard way (Genocides , assimilation and kurds deprived of speaking mother tongue in turkey) .

if you had said this in 1923 and kurds later did not face discrimination genocide and assimilation then yes no need for nationalism but unfortunately quite the opposite happened , so nationalism is a key point for a kurdish state which is now inevitable .

 

Nationalism generally is criminal and turns out badly... Look at the Third Reich.

 

we will drop it once a kurdish state is declared . and you should say that to your fellow Arabs not us .

 

you have still not answered me what was your ethnicity !?

 

What Arab nationalism is that?

Italians and Irishmen and Dutch in the United States are patriots who take pride in their heritage, yet they are NOT "Nationalists"......

 

Me?

Dutch and Irish.......... with a bit of mongrel thrown in.

 

Don't listen to the Kurd haters. They dislike anyone who dares dissent against complete Arab rule over the smaller ethnicities in the region. The barbarians to your south and barely civilized in Turkey just want your land, wealth & women for themselves.

Don't become slaves. Keep fighting and keep what is yours. If you have to "contract" with the Israelis than so be it. Better than domination under Arabs.