Marcus Smart's painful postgame incident a lasting reminder that racism is taught

That graph doesn't illustrate what you think it does. To me it illustrates the DECREASING value of a college degree and the vastly decreased difficulty in getting it. This explains why many trade workers make more than the average college graduate. We would better off if only the top 20% got a college degree, funnel the rest into trade schools. College is a life ruining experience for people who are not academically gifted, it saddles them with a 100K+ debt that can't be gotten out of via bankruptcy and is no longer a guarantee of a good job. Private industry is not impressed with degrees in women's studies or music history... why mortgage your future for them?

 

The share of both white and Black Americans with college degrees has increased dramatically over the last half-century, but there's still a gap.
The headline for the graph from that link.

It has nothing to do with what I or you think. It is raw data.

 

Exactly. What?
Black immigrants from Africa are more likely to have a 4 year degree than their white European counterparts.
That invalidates the claim of systemic racism being the cause of blacks having lower college enrollment than whites.

 

In what way?

 

Yes I know what it shows and I am saying that it is a BAD thing. There should be less people getting degrees.... much less. Degrees should be for SMART people, not ALL people.

 

A gap does not inherently mean systemic racism.

 

According to the liberal religion anything can be attributed to racism.

 

You post a chart trying to show us how minorities are at a disadvantage, I show you real numbers how college enrollment is up, government funding way up, and even degrees are up vs whites. You then come back and tell me racism is taught, tell us where? Show us those facts? I'm obviously younger, I grew up in the South with minorities and never ever once viewed them as minorities but did notice poverty vs middle class. I learned that I was racist because of my skin color in college, to some degree I agree racism is taught. Usually I find I'm racist because I'm white during a presidential election.

 

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Making a judgement about what someone knows and doesn't know based on the color of their skin?

There's a word for that.

And my point from the previous post should be so blatantly obvious that if you can't find a connection between racism and a biological predisposition to tribalism then I don't know what to tell you.

 

In the liberal progressive religion this is what is known as racism of the Gaps. There is no proof of racism so it must be assumed racism is the cause. Of course no one can actually study what is causing these things because that would be racist.

The liberal progressive religion has alot of myths like that.

 

The fundamental argument of the critical theorists is that truth doesn't exist, only power. To them motive for all behavior (including their own) is the accrual of power to impose value. They will take whatever position is expedient to further that goal. Racism isn't something they want to eliminate. It's something they want to control.

They say they don't believe in hierarchies, but in every system they build or participate in they impose their own.

 

How could you possibly not see it? He spelled it out haha.

 

The pathology of racism is a function of human reasoning. People look for patterns that they can apply globally to simplify complex systems. You've just demonstrated that pathology in your own post. You've reasoned that the color of a person's skin can be an indicator of what they know or don't know. That's a false premise. We make these false rationalizations all the time. Our brains are pattern recognition machines that quite often find patterns in places where no patterns exist. You can't look at someone's skin and know what they think or don't think. But you've established a rationalization that supports your observation that people with white skin are essentially different then people with black skin. You've assumed that difference prevents one from possessing the same knowledge as the other. That, my friend is racism.

You cannot tell by looking at my skin what I've experienced and what I have not experienced. You can only tell that by talking with me as an individual. Moreover, you cannot assume what everyone who possesses my skin color has experienced or has not experienced based on talking to me as an individual. But humans cannot help themselves. It's too difficult to talk with everyone on the planet, and so we gather what little information we have into a narrative and apply that narrative to everyone we haven't spoken with.

 

Education is never ever a BAD thing.

 

It certainly can.
The chart started in 1964, when systemic racism had some laws on the books promoting racism. Blacks and whites had separate everything.

And the gap hasn't budged. Why?
Laws have changed.
As the OP indicated, racism is ingrained into mindsets. It is unknowingly being passed down by being taught to children when a parent does a racist act or makes a racist statement.

 

I posted more than a chart.
The link posted 26 charts pointing to racism.

 

Thats why I don't claim to know what others think. I can only look at results compared to claims. The claim is that racism is systemic and pervasive. Can you name one thing a person of color couldn't achieve due to racism?

 

I am making no judgement. I am taking those making the claims of how they've been treated throughout their lives at their word.
You are choosing to ignore their words.

I don't know what you should tell me either. But you can try to explain how you reach your conclusion how race if affected by and a biological predisposition to tribalism.
I guess you have different experiences to make such a conclusion.

 

I have never ever made a claim that people know something or not know something based on skin color.
IMO, the color of skin has very little to do with what someone may or may not know. How do you think the amount and type of melanin is responsible for such knowing?

I argue very often, skin color has no base in what people know or do.
Culture is likely the biggest factor.

Where you got that conclusion about me and skin color is beyond me.

 

Explain it?

 

I have not claimed to know what others think. But I can read and hear what they say.

There's a link I posted with 26 charts trying to explain it.

There's the attitude of people like the woman in the OP where her attitude towards blacks paints them in a bad light. And if people of power and position hold same views, they will cloud judgement and limit opportunities. IMO.

 

If you are white, you won't have any idea what a black person lives day to day.

There's one example.

 

Got any more?
I will attempt to clarify. Blacks are treated differently in this country, So, I stand corrected. Thx for pointing that out.
Blacks have been treated differently per laws up until as recently as 50-60 yrs ago.
But it hasn't been just blacks. Women have been treated differently. LGBT have been treated differently.

So, I did use skin color, but discrimination isn't just about skin color. Skin color being used a racism is what the OP is about and how it's still taught from parents to kids. Often times unknown.

 

The woman in the OP does not represent society.

For your college chart to have meaning, you would have to show qualified applicants being turned away due to race. There are no grants or scholarships for just being white.

 

She represents a good many people in society. Enough of a group that skin color is still an issue in society.

I say another 3 generations before it's mostly relegated to the scrap heap. As with each passing generation, less and less gets passed down, ie taught.

In the past, skin color was a determinant for issuing grants and scholarships. The point of the chart shows that those discriminatory practices being outlawed, the gap hasn't closed.

All things being equal, and things are not, 35% of each skin color should be achieving the same grad rates.