maybe its time to go back to harsher penalties for horrible crimes?

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    You supported mandatory vaccinations of course, but this is your bridge too far?
     
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    It is generally a bad idea to give Big Bad Government's, like ours, the legal power to execute its political opposition by denouncing convicting them them as criminals in kangaroo courts.
     
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    What do vaccinations have to do with capital punishment?
     
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    Why? IT's public domain already. Dude was a more radicalized former communist environazi who chose NY to commit the crime because the gun laws would ensure no one could fight back. This one is a product of the left. See what you guys build when you try hard enough?
     
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    The irony of that will be entirely lost on the poster you responded to...
     
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    I suppose you might have asked the folks who died from them, but we can't, can we?
     
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    There is very little serious crime in totalitarian states, but that is hardly a good reason to encourage our government to follow the model of the Mexican drug cartels' treatment of their competition.
     
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    Well according to Mother Australia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Australia do harsher punishment prevent crime - Search (bing.com)
     
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    Ye of little faith! ;-)
    I think he will agree with me.
     
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    Lobotomy - Wikipedia
     
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    Actually since California has halted carrying out death sentences in 2019 they have had an increase in murders.
     
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    Sorry, but a mass murderer with a manifesto citing the talking points of the right’s favorite white nationalist, Tucker Carlson, is far from being a lefty. I don’t care what his political persuasions used to be. The ones that guided his actions on Saturday were far from leftist.

    I don’t support prohibition. That includes prohibition of guns.
     
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    How many people were killed by vaccinations? Please provide citation.
     
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    maybe its time to go back to harsher penalties for horrible crimes?

    I think people who live in large cities would settle for any penalties at all.
     
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    I’m not familiar with the crime statistics for totalitarian states, but I would say a strong argument could be made that severity of punishment is less likely to deter crime than the certainty of being caught in such a state. People are less likely to act out when they are firmly under the thumb of their government. I don’t suppose any of us here support such a system.
     
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    But at least if your in prison, you have the opportunity to get out.
     
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    You’d have to demonstrate that this is a causative relationship and not just correlative. I wonder if anything else has been happening in the past couple years…

     
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    wrong quote, please ignore
     
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    Why make up shyte here? The facts are unfortunate for the left for sure, but trying to continue to spin this as something other than a leftwing white supremacist is ridiculous. Yes, democrats actually are the party of white supremacy, protestations aside. I suspect that you won't be able to continue to spin this misdirection after his trial, but for that duration, you'll try. Dude is one of yours. I understand how embarrassing for you that must be.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hi Folks,
    I didn't realize this was a Tucker Carlson thread.
    So this is on HIM? OK, that makes a ton of sense. NOT!
    Is Don Lemon responsible for all black on white crime? He sure paints white people in a negative light.
    My opinion is NO, he isn't responsible and neither is Tucker.
    So there goes your little Tucker Carlson theory right down the crapper!
     
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    Do you believe the left supports open borders? Maybe likes illegal immigrants?
     
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    Just one source.

    https://finchannel.com/how-many-people-died-after-covid-19-vaccination/

    VAERS data suggests thousands have died after vaccination, but like how covid deaths were counted that included cause of death other than covid, the "debunking" folks have made the claim that cause of death "doesn't" include those who died after vaccination being determinatively caused by the vaccine. This seems pretty problematic. Given that folks die from lots of other causalities other than covid as well. But hey, this shows not many, but the folks who died from either hypotensive myocardial infarction, or thrombosis, those folks are still dead. As for the J&J jabs that perhaps caused this, well, hard to find info Google intends to bury. Which is why there are other search engines.

    From the citation.
    "Thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) occurring after Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen (J&J/Janssen) COVID-19 vaccination is rare. As of November 10, 2021, more than 16 million doses of the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine have been given in the United States. CDC and FDA have identified 50 confirmed reports of people who got the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine and later developed TTS, including 5 confirmed reports of death. Women ages 18-49, especially, should be aware of the rare but increased risk of this adverse event. There are other COVID-19 vaccine options available for which this risk has not been seen. Learn more about J&J/Janssen COVID-19 vaccine and TTS."

    So the number isn't zero here, is it? As a product of mandatory vaccination doesn't it seem odd that you're willing to inflict this here, but are squeamish if say a court convicts folks who you suggest might be innocent? Were these folks not innocent? It's pretty shocking that you'd maintain this position.
     
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    Seemed to be the natural progression of the conversation. If you’d prefer that not be the case I’ll respect that.
     
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    VAERS relies on self reporting. Pretty weak evidence.
     
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