maybe its time to go back to harsher penalties for horrible crimes?

Topics branch out. I'm fine with that. Just putting in my 2 cents that I don't think accountability for this sort of things is from a Media entertainer talking statistics.

 

I think the evidence clearly shows that the Biden administration is NOT closing the boarders. I can demonstrate how his administration is hiding illegals throughout the nation, and are using the agencies of DHS to shield these movements from journalistic scrutiny.. I can show you where democrats have made the process of getting registered to vote a direct result of obtaining a state drivers license and or state identification card. etc. I can demonstrate all of these things. Want to take a swing at why democrats continue to allow these policies in these states? Millions of illegals are seemingly missing all around the nation this year alone. States like TX with republicans are trying to use their own state resources to block further and future illegal immigrants from gaining purchase here, and the Biden administration is actively suing them in court.

I can craft a pretty strong narrative that demonstrates that democrats are allowing illegal immigration to continue. Myorkis can't control the boarder. What is your answer to your own question here?

 

Lesser punishment you will get more of it. How can you prove correlation other than time frame?

 

I appreciate your flexibility with the topic, but I disagree with your take here. When a wildly popular news host push great replacement conspiracy theories, I believe that should be taken into consideration when mass shooters use that to justify their actions.

 

I'm against the death penalty now. I think murderers should be sentenced to life in prison in solitary confinement. Perfectly legal in the U.S. And I've made some designs for prison cells for this purpose.

 

Yeah, I 100% support open borders. I think immigrants make our country stronger. This is a common leftist view.

Now why would a leftist game man be motivated by fears of white replacement. That seems strange…

 

Your inability to respond duly noted.

 

Sure. The pandemic was a world wide event. Homicides increased all over the country, even in states with the death penalty. Seems to be strong evidence that the pandemic had a stronger impact on homicide rates than California not executing people.

 

Well if that is the case than entertainment/spin media needs to go away and be replaced by fact only news with no spin. We'll also have to cancel shows like the view and anything else that paints people in a bad light, especially Joy Reid.

 

My response is limited by the worthwhileness of the data you provide.

Garbage in, garbage out.

 

Well, at least you admit your own complicity here. You'll have to ask the child in custody why he did this. I'll bet given his references to Waukashau that he picked black folks to make a point to ensure his actions would be misconstrued by folks, just like you, who might then make this not about themselves.... But this one is yours. There are some pretty open questions given his mental health history that dude was still able to purchase weapons at all.. Do you suppose he just wanted to be resident of the state of NY penitentiary population?

 

I would absolutely love to return to facts based journalism. News entertainment is a blight on society.

 

Californias homicide rate increases was one of the highest in the nation during this time. Spa that leads me to believe that it most definitely played a role

 

And those that commit these crimes of horror, their concern for the victims was overwhelming, I'm sure.

Here's an example of when, IMO, execution is just. This wiki does not include some of the details, like bleach being used in the victims orifices. Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom - Wikipedia

 

So, because someone's life is taken for Reason A, instead of Reason B, they are
'worth more' on the punishment level? Is one anymore dead then the other?

Every personal crime is a 'hate crime'. Trying to make one more important then the other is BS in my opinion.

 

I suspect you grossly underestimate the tendency towards violence in the human evolutionary paradigm.

 

If the court decides the death penalty is warranted I think convicted murders should die by their own methods of death... stranglers get hanged slowly, gun shooters get shot, if they buried some one alive, they get buried alive, if they poisoned then they get poisoned. If they rape and kill, they get raped and killed, drowners get drowned, etc...
Just my two cents worth...

 

Not at all

 

You’re making a lot of speculative claims that seem to be informed by a biased goal to put distance between them and the right. Yet all I have to do is point to the fact that great replacement conspiracy theories are the playthings of alt-right white nationalists. How strange.

 

While I tend towards eye for an eye myself, someone would be inflicting said punishments.

Execution in a basic humane manner, what little salve for the conscious that may provide, for the executioner. Those that confess, or a proven beyond a doubt, no lengthy stay in jail. 1 year, all appeals in, and end it then.

 

I don’t care about their concern for their victims. This thread is filled with my arguments against the death penalty. This is another emotional argument that I don’t find convincing.

 

I would like to officially announce I change my stance on the traffic light thing
It wouldn’t be practical
There must be better places to display the consequences of murder.
Maybe in a wall like hand maids tale style?

 

It's a factual argument.

There are people out there that have complete disregard for the people they harm, and admit to it. You have not posted a plausible reason why these people who admit what they did, should not be executed.

 

If the court decides the death penalty is warranted...
May I add... the family member of the murdered would be given an option to participate in the execution if they chose to. If you don't agree with my thoughts of "drowning a drowner" at least they would get to be the one to throw the switch...