Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Lock him up!
     
  2. BuckyBadger

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    You mean like Obama and his FBI/DOJ did? Who in the Obama Administration unmasked Michael Flynn? That was an actual felony.
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Yah? What law says unmasking is a felony?
     
  4. Bush Lawyer

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    If Cohen committed an offence in making those hush payments, then so did Donald. 'Tis salt and pepper, ying and yang, "you can't have one without the other."
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Berman or no Berman - the matter was still handled by Berman's office. Just not him, personally.

    Additionally it was a a purely SDNY case, entirely separate from Mueller's investigation.

    It was the SDNY - not Mueller - which applied for the search warrants, and there being probable cause they were approved by a federal judge.

    The agents who executed the warrants were not Mueller agents, nor in any way associated with his investigation.
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    Gosh so Flynn must have given them something real good to get no prison recommended!
     
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    Has trump drained the swamp yet?
    Everyone around him seems to be corrupt, unfit for their position, or abandoning ship...

    Who knew by draining the swamp he meant only far enough so that the muck on the bottom was visible.
     
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  8. Lil Mike

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    There was no trial, it was a plea deal. In fact, it had to be a plea deal or they couldn't have had the campaign finance charges included. They never could have gotten him on that. But for Cohen, it probably made sense to plead guilty to campaign finance charges since considering the Justice Department has his entire office notes as evidence, there are probably decades of charges they could have hit him with but plead guilty to lying Congress and campaign finance and he gets to walk after 3 years.

    Now Mueller has that in his report about the campaign finance charges so they can be Article 1 of impeachment charges against Trump without actually having to prove there was a campaign finance crime!

    Brilliant! I have to give Mueller credit, he figured out how to make up a crime out of nothing. He truly is the Beria of the deep state.
     
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    He would already be charged but for the fact that he is the president.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

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    It’s not mueller who charged him with that. Amazing the wild theories you have to concoct to explain why a lawyer plead to something you deny is a crime lol
    Cohen went to prison longer just to make trump look bad lol
     
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    He wouldn't even be in the establishments crosshairs if he wasn't the president.
     
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  12. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:

    "But...Obama...":bored:

    So, let me get this straight, you actually consider that ludicrous Off-Topic Whatboutism to be a contribution that furthers the discussion of the topic of the OP?

    The subject is Cohen, not Obama.

    If you want to discuss Obama feel free to start another thread.

    Try to do a better job of keeping Off-Topic RW BS out of threads that don't require it.

    Nothing personal, just a friendly suggestion.

    Thanks in advance.:salute:

    Is it even possible for the RW to "defend" Trump without Whataboutism?

    Anyway, back ON TOPIC, Cohen is going to sing like a canary.

    Trump's Brain (even as tiny as it is) is squirming like a cockroach in Hitler's Bunker.
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    That's an interesting take on what I actually wrote. I think Cohen got a much shorter prison term, not a longer one. Why would he plead guilty on a plea deal to get a longer sentence?
     
  14. The Mello Guy

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    Adding more offenses to your plea gets you a shorter sentence? Lol
     
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    He was pressured into composing that guilty plea. Still no Russia collusion I see. Meanwhile Deep State darling Comey goes free, the same one who lied to Congress when he said he never leaked.
     
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    "To be clear, I don’t mean to imply that a criminal prosecution of President Trump for campaign finance violations would be an easy case—or that it could be done at all. Some of the sharpest legal minds in the nation disagree over whether a sitting President can be prosecuted for any crimes while he remains in office. And even if prosecution were possible, conviction would require proof that Trump knew his actions were forbidden by law and violated the law notwithstanding that knowledge."
     
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    Correct, sort of. The information came directly from Mueller, who passed it to Rosenstein who then sent it to SDNY, who then got the AG recused and got the warrants and then raided Trump's personal attorney.

    Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team had passed information on to the Department of Justice, which referred the matter to the U.S. Attorney’s Office New York, but the raids and investigation are separate from the ongoing investigation into Russia meddling during the 2016 election.

    This was a preplanned hit by Mueller and the DOJ who could have never pulled this off without the SDNY involvement and the recusal of the AG. For the most part. This is a get Trump exercise, even if we have to bend/break rules and strong arm people into telling something that we can use to impeach him or indict him.
     
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    Yea, it's against the law and the only felony committed thus far that can be proven.... which is not being investigated.
     
  19. Andrew Jackson

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    Yeah?

    And, So What?

    If it is a "Get Trump" exercise, what is wrong with that?

    That Criminally-Insane ORANGE POS needs to pay the piper (sooner or later).

    Hopefully Cohen can SING even more.

    Sounds like a plan.:flagus:
     
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    :roflol:

    and so? Did you follow the conversation or just wander in front of the TV like a child? :)
     
  21. The Mello Guy

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    So I’ll ask again, what law says unmasking is illegal?
     
  22. The Mello Guy

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    And that was before the enquirer confirmed Cohens claims!
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    If there was any justice in America Cohen would have gotten 20 years and would have been sitting in prison at this very minute instead of getting a 3 month vacation.
     
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    I'll admit, you've lost me.
     
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    We need to prosecute more people for tax fraud and stop letting them off...I’m looking at Al Sharpton for example
     

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