Michael Moore: Trump Will Win in 2020 if Democrats Nominate Another ’Centrist Moderate’ like Hillary

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Multiple rolls, talented lil actress she is ;)
     
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    How many liberals do you know? And of them, how many would tell you what they think?
    Please stop BSing about me being on the left.

    Biden is a better candidate than he was when he ran before. Iowa and New Hampshire voters will either give Klobuchar and Buttigieg a second look before Super Tuesday or Biden will likely be on his way to the nomination.
    Gabbard has no chance. Bloomberg won't get it, either. Yang or Klobuchar? I'd bet on her.
    Bloomberg would pick a liberal, not Klobuchar.
    I'm not surprised. Trump isn't a nice person.
     
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    It's interesting to hear him say the Republican party is filled with angry white men... as far as I'm concerned the angry are the democrats, leftist liberals, yelling and screaming until all debate devolves into nothing but loud angry voices....idea killers.

    I think until they can clearly see who they are really up against, middle class families who wants to secure their borders and bring jobs back to America, they don't stand a chance.
     
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    I've been putting my chips on Amy since she got in the race in the snowstorm, not that I'm a registered D.... I still think her combination of sex, age, experience, state, sense of humor, and location on the Democratic scale should cause everybody to give her a serious listen..

    On topic, I understand what Michael Moore is doing, trying to scare the pants off people in his home state and the rest of the Rust Belt, but I personally expect ALL D's and most I's to eventually fall fully in place next November behind the eventual D candidate.

    The alternative is unthinkable..
     
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    Her, along with "The Squad" are getting all the good press they can handle from the Legacy Media. They're getting a push for sure.

    He was being sarcastic.
     
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    Exactly.

    And whether the "Progessives" want to admit it (or not), barring anything unforeseen, Biden seems (almost) unstoppable at this point.

    Anything is possible, etc.

    But, Biden is the HEAVY Favorite.
     
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    Too much Fox News "feel good" BS? Democrats are pounding away on health care in most districts. Elect us, they say, and we won't let them take away your health care.
     
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    I guess... I'd vote for Joe Biden's removed gall bladder if that's what it took, but he's truly NOT an exciting candidate.

    Which is probably what we need after 4 years of insanity, imbecility, and instability...

    Wonder who Joe will take on as the VP? Likely to be a woman, and it won't be Lizzie, so will it be Amy, Kamala, or somebody else?

    Kamala doesn't really help the ticket much being from CA, so Amy's midwestern thing could help here as well..

    She'd be 64 in the 2024 election, and despite what he's denying, there is almost zero chance Joe goes for 2 terms, so that could be a good long term strategy....
     
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    Pelosi is in charge, not AOC and her media hound pals.
    I know.
     
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    I like Amy as a VP.

    Although Kamala checks off that "Person of Color" box.

    If the Dem Party really feels the need to check off that "Person of color" box (for identity politics) Kamala could have the inside track.
     
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    They're all actors. Warren isn't very good at it, frankly.
     
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    Well, you only have to be good enough to convince your audience ;)
     
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    I think Klobuchar is the Democrats' best hope.
     
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    America's economy has in 3 years moved from 1/5 of the global economy to 1/4...
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-1-4th-of-global-economy-in-just-three-years/

    Our low income workers have had the fastest wage increase in over a decade...
    https://disrn.com/news/low-income-workers-experience-fastest-wage-increase-in-over-a-decade

    And you have Joe Biden straight up saying a vote for him is a vote for the status quo.
    https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/jo...ng-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/
     
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    Also applies to Trump.
     
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    No, it didn't. Sheesh.

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    More BS.

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    Median income is largely stalled.
     
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    Moore did warn that trump could win against hillary and I recall as to why he said it. Trump targeted the working middle class and workers in general who were the same kind of people supporting sanders. And the dnc with help from the dems and msm went after sanders to help Clinton.

    A moderate centrist dem is an enemy to the kind of folks who voted for sanders and trump. People are ignoring that.

    Trump can only be beat by appealing to voters who want the disemboweling of America reversed, control of illegal immigration tthat depress wages and an end to forever wars so America is invested in. As trump promised.

    Also America is no longer center right given the right moved farther to the right. The scheme of sucking sound globalism is right of center and Clinton moved his party there. This is being rejected by left of center people . By the traditional liberals.

    I believe if an honest poll could be run you would find the majority of Americans want single payer as an option and college financed by a wall street transactional tax. For state colleges and tech schools.

    The dems dont want any of this and will try to keep such a candidate out of the running. If they cannot run a neolib nneocon, the status quo, they will run a fake that talks the talk but wont walk the walk. Like Obama who ran one way and flipped once he wob.

    So the right kind of left of center person as I laid out is the strongest candidate the dems could run as long as he or she was moderate on social issues and not a crazy sjw.


    The kind of dem we once had before Clinton would be hard to beat. But the DP does not want that for they dont want to lose their big feeding bowl of campaign financing.

    This group of people who were not being represented is growing folks and being ignored They put trump into office and made sanders run strong in 16.

    Tulsi is the perfect candidate and the dems cant stand her and have the help of msm . But in 2024 if the trend continues the dems wont be able to keep her out.

    The DP is at war internally and imo the working americans will take that party back slowly. This can be seen in alternative media and with voices like hedges, frank, and nader.

    The party of Clinton is coming apart and cannot beat ttrump Not as long as his voters think he has kept promises and represented the working middle class. Americans still want change that began with Obama but who lied, and gave us trump and sanders. Change is the name of the game. Yet as in 16 msm and the dems are intentionally ignoring that fact.

    They dont want the common man to have any power and influence for this turns over the apple cart.
     
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    The extreme right is NOT the majority of the country.
     
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    There is NO LAW that enables small children to be ILLEGALLY ABDUCTED from their parents which is why JUDGES have invalidated your IMPOTUS's cruel and inhumane policies.
     
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    The children of ASYLUM SEEKERS are NOT here "illegally" and NEITHER are their parents!

    That you don't care what CRIMES your IMPOTUS commits against small children says VOLUMES about the bogus "christian values" of IMPOTUS supporters.

    Jesus would be weeping for them and throwing those fake "christians" out of his temple!
     
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    I disagree. Sanders is the strongest candidate they have. His age is what will hurt him. Warren is a fake as evidenced in 16 when she supported hillary even as she was supposed to be left like sanders .

    Trumps viable challenge would come from sanders or Tulsi but the dems are corporate dems not reps of the common man.

    We are still in elections of change that began with Obama who flipped and trump who won on change. Sanders ran strong on change but was dirty dealed by the Clinton DNC

    Sanders will be running against the dnc, the corporate dems known as moderates and big corporate msm again .

    Can sanders peel of his voters who went to trump? I dunno but most dems will vote sanders because they hate trump and are very tribal.

    Sanders is the only person that can send the encumbent home given the war against Tulsi who is right of sanders but a classic liberal . A common sense liberal with integrity and who has this quaint belief the people are supposed to be represented to instead of only our elites who own the corporations and too big to fail and jail banks.
     
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    Warren is BOTH a centrist and a radical and she is smart enough to use both of those skill sets to beat the IMPOTUS.
     
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    Why do you say Sanders is the strongest? A lot of dems dislike him. Personally, I think he's empty. He's the Ted Cruz of the left. He has crazy far-out ideas, like Ted promising to send all of the IRS employees south of the border. I would say only about a third of the party takes him seriously. And among that third no more than a quarter are die-hard Bernie backers.
    LOL Dems see Tulsi as nothing more than a contrarian. She's trying very hard to distinguish herself from the other dems. But she's doing so by spouting off dumb ideas.
    Obama won on Bush hate. Trump won on Obama hate. If dems are going to win in 2020, it will be on Trump hate. They just need a viable candidate to get behind to rally their hatred for Trump. Buttigieg is probably the only one who can pull that off.
    Sanders voters went Trump? haha
     
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    It is a catch 22.

    Where did I say I hate bootygig?

    His problem is he's polling very low amongst blacks, and almost as low amongst hispanics.
     
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