Michael Moore: Trump Will Win in 2020 if Democrats Nominate Another ’Centrist Moderate’ like Hillary

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They have to go back, this is a major reason Trump was elected.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sanders is perhaps the closest to the dems version of Trump-a populist.

    I heard he filed to run as both a dem and an independent have you heard that?
     
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    It really doesn't matter who the Dem candidate is because the IMPOTUS is his own worst enemy when it comes "peeling off the voters" who supported him in 2016.

    For starters he has LOST suburban college educated women and is losing the support of farmers because of his insane "trade war". His primary demographic support bloc is going to shrink by 3.5 million between 2016 and 2020 which equates to a net loss of over a million votes at the polls.

    Furthermore there is NOTHING that the IMPOTUS is doing to gain additional supporters. 25% of all of those jobs in the "booming economy" pay LESS than POVERTY level wages and there have been ZERO quality jobs created. His tariffs have WIPED OUT any salary increases for those who were lucky enough to get them and for those who didn't they have gone BACKWARDS as far as income is concerned because of the rise in the cost of living.

    These numbers explain why there are so many Dem's wanting the nomination because they know that EVERYTHING about the IMPOTUS is a sham and the majority of the electorate are NOT going to be fooled twice. The media are NOT going to give him those endless hours of free air time for his rallies because he is OLD NEWS now.

    On top of all that 50% of the nation wants him removed and even if that number is only 48% the IMPOTUS lacks the ability to SWING that difference to support him in 2020. Which brings us to the election itself. TURNOUT is going to be the KEY and the Progressives are on a roll to make that happen. The have been training for this election for 3 years now and are determined to win the "Big Game" in 2020.

    The IMPOTUS's negatives outweigh his positives so really all he has going for him is Minority Voter Suppression in battleground states. He has already lost in places like PA so his path to 270 is tenuous at best. The only other hope he has is a massive social media campaign of DISINFORMATION about his opponent and even there it is going to meet resistance because people are aware that it could happen and will call it out when they see it.

    2020 is going to be a DIFFERENT election and the outcome is NOT a foregone conclusion.
     
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    So what?

    Your IMPOTUS does NOT get a free pass to ILLEGALLY ABDUCT small children. How would you feel if one of your own children was illegally abducted? How would your child feel?

    Committing CRIMES against children makes we Americans WORSE than criminals like MS-13!

    Think about it!
     
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    Yes trump got some sanders voters and trump even accused sanders of using his ideas. You didnt follow their campaigns very closely. What varied was the means used to achieve the changes.

    You are assuming the DP the voters are not trending towards change moving away from corporate dems.

    Sanders is stronger with blue collar people than you are aware of. You didnt watch his speeches either along with what trump won on.

    The people the dems kicked to the curb and disemboweled voted for sanders and trump....on issues.

    Just watch for the dirty tricks and lies as the corporate dems try to eliminate sanders. Sanders is weak only because of his age and health. He is more well known now and your average dem voter would vote for him over trump. The only corporate dem voters are in the top 10 percent.
    A corporate Dem will not beat trump.

    Sanders may not but he stands the best chance .

    This same kind of thinking made me call the last one for trump which is recorded here on this forum. I called it for trump because I understood it was a change driven election .And trump was doing what neither party would do. Represent those 100 million or more left behind by both parties.
     
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    I will stick to my analysis given I called the last election and the pundits were wrong because they live in bubbles and missed the fact change was clearly in the air Status quo wasnt gonna win .

    Things are happening in the dem party with voters not reflected in msm nor these poorly worded polls .

    A corporate Dem will not beat trump The faction fighting the corporate dems will not vote for a Clinton dem.

    Trumps base is strong but could lose the suffering working class that also voted for trump once sanders lost to the collusion of the dems dnc and msm.
     
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    Trump is solving the border/refugee problem.

    I wouldn't break the law and then risk my children being illegally abducted but then again Im not a mexican narco.

    If you think "we Americans" are worse than MS-13, have you considered moving to Mexico or Guatemala.
     
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    Thank you for establishing that you have NOT bothered to research the FACTS regarding the Asylum seekers. They are here because St Reagan turned their nations into crime ridden "shitholes" during Iran-Contra.

    But you believe that your CRIMINAL IMPOTUS is "solving the border/refugee problem" when EVERYTHING he has attempted has been a DISMAL FAILURE!

    Sad!
     
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    No more sad than Americans killed by illegals.

    Here's how its gonna be-illegals are going home, and if they don't they will be quickly encouraged to do it.

    For the next 5 years thats how its gonna be.
     
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    :roflol:

    Yeah? And, so what?

    What does that have to do with the 2020 POTUS Race?:bored:

    He filed as an Independent (for his '24 Senate Bid) to raise money for his 2024 VT Senate Race.

    You are acting as if you didn't know that.

    Were you actually insinuating that Bernie filed as an Ind. for President? :roflol:

    From MARCH 2019:

    Bernie Sanders filed Monday to be a candidate for the Senate in 2024 — as an independent.

    But last month, Sanders filed as a Democrat for president.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/7001...files-to-run-as-a-democrat-and-an-independent


    You may want to do a better of "researching" your talking points.:bored:
     
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    Just worked years in sanctuary cities and then went on to practice medicine in the same area.

    Clearly-from what you've read in magazines-you've got the full understanding.
     
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    AJ show everyone his presidential and senate filings as far as you know.
     
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    He typifies fat and stupid.
     
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    It is explained in the LINK...

    And, once again, another one of your Breitbart "Talking Points" has been utterly debunked (as usual).:bored:

    Better luck next time.
     
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    What he has gained in Black voters will more than make up for any farmers he loses.
     
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    Bernies going every way. Its a Christmas gift...

     
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    How many THOUSANDS of children have been ABDUCTED under the NEFARIOUS policies of your IMPOTUS?
     
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    You lack of Subject Matter knowledge when it comes to Asylum seekers is YOUR problem, not mine!
     
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    Actually its yours, since what Im advocating is being implemented in legislation.

    This is no country for old leftists.
     
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    :roflol:

    Ironic coming from a supporter of the fat and stupid IMPOTUS!
     
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    Prove it!
     
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    Less than Obama.
     
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    More bovine excrement!

    Cite the legislation where it STIPULATES that your CRIMINAL IMPOTUS is allowed to ABDUCT small children from their parents!
     
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    Complete and utter CRAP because there were ZERO illegal abductions of small children from their Asylum seeking children under Obama!
     
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    Everybody KNOWS that.

    Even 3 Years After leaving office, the RW Still can't quit Obama.:smh:
     
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