Mike Pence: US Is 'Nation of Believers'

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by XXJefferson#51, Apr 30, 2021.

  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,135
    Likes Received:
    6,609
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Most everything.
     
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ok, feel free to expand on your points then.

    Let’s start with your first point on why you would support someone that is the opposite of a moral leader: “oppose elective abortion”. How do you believe that would come about?
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  3. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    14,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They both live in the same state. Trump could move to another of his properties to solve that issue. As to De Santis, his handling of China virus overall in his state, re opening, no mask mandate, in person education, the anti riot and looting measures, voter reforms, tax policies, and crackdown on big tech social media censorship are all big pluses in my book.
     
    Dayton3 likes this.
  4. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    14,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When religious people are faced with choosing between two then very worldly people running for the same office, we are going to vote for the one who appeals to us for our support and makes promises to enact things we seek and to protect our liberty. Trump kept virtually every promise he made to us. Wicked witch Hillary offered us nothing and neither did uncle Joe.
     
    Dayton3 likes this.
  5. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,135
    Likes Received:
    6,609
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not sure what you mean. To me, support or opposition to abortion rights is an absolute moral issue. Thus it trumps (no pun) almost everything else.
     
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  6. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you can pick evil as long as it is the lessor evil?

    Can you point to where in the good book it says that?

    Matthew 16:26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?

    If trump is a decent man I wonder what you would say about a man that had one wife, no signs of adultery, attended religious services regularly, doesn’t use religious props, doesn’t condemn others...

    oh wait, you hate him and still support the one that does none of these things!
     
    Lucifer and Derideo_Te like this.
  7. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    14,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He did it for our benefit, not his own and we needed it at the time.
     
  8. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    14,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly. Those of us who are Christians and who voted for Trump had very good reasons for doing so. The real questions are what reasons did Hillary or Joe give us to vote for them?
     
    Dayton3 likes this.
  9. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Again, how do you think the state could force women to not have abortions outside of making them become an unwilling incubator?

    So you would pick a leader no matter how evil over someone that is moral in all other areas just over legal access to abortion?

    Because that is just terrifying
     
    Lucifer and Derideo_Te like this.
  10. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You needed them to tear gas non-violent protesters and hold up a religious prop?

    If that is all y’all need no wonder he had almost 100% evangelical support.
     
    Lucifer and Derideo_Te like this.
  11. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    14,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Biden opposes his own church on several issues and favors using government power to coerce people into acting in direct violation of their religious beliefs. As to adultery,Jill’s ex says that her and Biden were doing it while they were still married and before Bidens first wife died in the car crash. Doesn’t Bidens church preach against marrying a divorced person? Particularly since she had no biblical grounds for hers?
     
  12. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    trump was having sex with prostitutes while his third wife was pregnant with their son.

    You do have a point about opposing their church, trump wins that round because he doesn’t have a church to oppose.

    Making religious people act “in direct violation of their religious beliefs”, by this do you mean asking that they abide by the same laws as all other Americans?

    Romans 13:1-2 "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
     
    Lucifer and Derideo_Te like this.
  13. Market Junkie

    Market Junkie Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2016
    Messages:
    2,390
    Likes Received:
    1,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Where I come from we have a term for those like stiff mike who have blind faith in some alleged sky pappy ... SUCKERS...
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  14. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,135
    Likes Received:
    6,609
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why? To some of us killing what we consider babies is a pretty big deal. And you stop abortions by prosecuting the abortion providers.
     
  15. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,135
    Likes Received:
    6,609
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why does that matter?
     
  16. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There are many other methods to induce a miscarriage, what do you want to do with these women? What if they ho to another nation where abortion is legal?
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  17. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2009
    Messages:
    25,135
    Likes Received:
    6,609
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You can't do anything to people for what they do in other nations.
     
  18. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When speaking of moral character, especially on a religious scale, it matters greatly when seeing what is acceptable vs not acceptable, there are dozens of verses on truth and fidelity and following individuals lacking a moral compass. When these people are the ones trying to restrict rights from others it points to blind hypocrisy
     
    Lucifer and Derideo_Te like this.
  19. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not necessarily true.
    And what if they have drugs imported or purposely cause a miscarriage, what will the penalty be?
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  20. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    40,887
    Likes Received:
    20,773
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pelosi had her own photo op shortly afterwards, with the entire Congress bowing down and that was embarrassingly disgusting. Trump's photo op is light in comparison.
     
  21. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,339
    Likes Received:
    11,511
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pence's pandering is pathetic. If Pence is a real Christian he would know that Biden is appointed by God.

    For there is no authority except from God and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.
     
  22. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,339
    Likes Received:
    11,511
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Persona non grata with any one who does not like a back stabbing Judas.

    And he supported Biden stealing the election. Or maybe shutting down polls with Trump ahead and then pulling out boxes of ballots hidden from under tables is how elections work down under.

    We shall see how the Arizona audit now underway plays out.
     
    XXJefferson#51 likes this.
  23. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Banned

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    16,405
    Likes Received:
    14,884
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So the Christian voter choosing between Biden and Trump is justified in voting for the one whose policy goals and promises most closely identify with their own. God also said to obey His law whenever there is a conflict between mans law and Gods law.
     
  24. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2020
    Messages:
    10,068
    Likes Received:
    10,391
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I guess you chose to believe that the US is a nation of believers.

    I sometimes wonder if some on the Right also believes that every else is the same as them (and that they just need to wake up from their sin). Divergence from said awakening is projected to be tampering by the illuminati.

    Q takes it further. The non-believer ring-leaders are commiting treason and are going to be court martialed and executed.
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2021
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  25. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,200
    Likes Received:
    31,682
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pelosi gassed protesters and held up a religious book she has never read as a prop? I must have missed that
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2021
    Derideo_Te likes this.

Share This Page