Minimum wage must be abolished!

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  1. Jackster

    Jackster New Member

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    I find it staggering so many of us accept that the govt can take away our basic human right to trade our labor for a living. Our labor is our own private property, is it illegal to sell our homes for less than a certain price? A DVD player, a painting.... so why is it acceptable to have the govt price people out of the earning a living? If all your skills are worth in the market place is $5/hour and your willing to accept that exchange why should you be outlawing it?

    You take away a persons right to earn, learn and build an employment history when those very things are most valued in the market place. Do you also want to control whom someone has a relationship with, surely that's an individuals right to trade with whom they like?

    I find it interesting such a basic human right can be denied and all we hear from the lefties is increasing the min wage. It should be abolished! Forcing people to be dependents of the state, unable to better themselves...... taking away their basic human right to trade their labor is a civil rights abuse of the highest order. Its a racist law designed to keep low IQ races out of the workforce as low skilled employment disappears offshore.

    How exactly do you justify taking away people basic human rights?
     
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    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    Which races have low IQ's?
     
  3. Jackster

    Jackster New Member

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    Good question, which races are too stupid to get voter ID cards? You know that policy the left keeps saying is racist. So the race/s that the left think are too stupid is what i mean.
     
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    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    When you referred to low IQ races, which races, specifically, were you referring to?
     
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    Yes, let's return to the days of people working for pennies at the hands of the greedy capitalist elite.

    No thanks. Minimum wage will never be abolished.
     
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    Of course. You would rather many of these people have no job at all instead of a low paying entry level job. That's what a minimum wage does.. it prices certain jobs out of the market and creates unemployment. Which is worse to you? Unemployment or a job with some kind of wage that gets someone in the door to begin the process of working their way up the ladder?
     
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    So your morals should over ride the basic human rights for someone to trade their labor/ time? Where did these morals come from? Why do you want to punish the low skilled/ low IQ people/ races?
     
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    And which races are you referring to? Do elaborate.
     
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    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    Which races have low IQ?
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you just couldn't help outing yourself, could ya ?
     
  11. ErikBEggs

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    Full employment is ~4% unemployment.

    I don't think minimum wage needs to be changed (other than being pegged to the CPI in the future) currently. Minimum wage does not have a large impact on employment. Raising it or lowering it a few bucks won't make that much of a difference.
     
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    I already have, the same races that the left believe are too stupid to get voters ID cards. I made that pretty clear.
     
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    Which races are those?

    Why are you afraid to state which races you believe to suffer from low IQ?
     
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    Please quote or show some evidence that the left believes some "races" (which you have not stated yet) are too stupid to get voter ID cards.
     
  15. Jackster

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    How else could voter ID be racist?

    lol @ the little Marxists. They claim dumb people getting to Voter ID is racist then object that their policies of pricing dumb people out of the market could be racist.

    Thank you for proving my point!
     
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    Abolish minimum wage, but require everyone to unionize, so they can effectively bargain for their terms and conditions of employment.
     
  17. ErikBEggs

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    *scratches head*

    What are you saying?

    No one has an issue with requiring an ID to vote. People have an issue with states gerrymandering, hiking ID costs, and making obtaining an ID purposely difficult to deter certain voters.

    If you want to require an ID to vote, it should be free. It is a FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT of this country. A RIGHT.
     
  18. Jackster

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    Remove one force and apply another? Simple supply and demand works well in pricing.

    Im still yet to hear why one of mankind's most human right should be removed.

    Maybe we should make a law that says you cant run unless you can run a half marathon?
     
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    Since when is that a right? I can choose to pay you nothing and we are right back to the golden days of *gasp* slavery.

    Capitalism must be regulated in any sane society to prevent the mass exploitation of labor.
     
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    Its a basic human right to trade ones labor and time for whatever they damn well please.

    You can offer nothing, its my right to refuse.

    Slavery there is no right of refusal. Hmm much like having a basic a human right removed and being FORCED to serve you master......the state.
     
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    Do we have to spell it out for you?

    Do you suffer from revisionism??! We tried the great pure capitalism already. IT FAILED. Do Robber Barrons mean nothing to you? You can start a small business, but in unregulated capitalism your competition will buy you or extort your market because they have more resources than you. That is the truth behind unfettered capitalism. Stop living in a dream world.
     
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    Which races were you referring to when you used the phrase "low IQ races"?


    Are you afraid to back up your racism?
     
  23. Jackster

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    Who said anything about unregulated? Of course there needs to be health and safety standards for products and workplaces.

    You have the choice of what product and how much you pay, cant afford it - dont buy it. And of course you should have the right to dictate how much your willing to work for. But for some reason other people think they know better than you and take that basic human right away, taking your livelihood away with it.
     
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    As soon as one of you leftist can tell which races voter ID is racist against ill be able to tell you. Other than that, im sure you can look up the IQ averages and determine for yourself. Oh hang on maybe you cant........ your a leftist after all. Your hypocrisy provides so much entertainment.
     
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    IQ is not effected by race.
     

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