Mitt Romney should switch to the Democratic Party or be Independent

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Well, he has over 80% support from republicans and really only falls among independents. There are fewer republicans then independents or democrats. So imo, he’s a republican and really reflects nearly all the views of the modern day republican. He’s just an obnoxious person....

    Conservative ? Republicans never pay their bills anymore. Is that conservative ? They find money for huge tax cuts and increased military spending but have no money for unemployment benefits and don’t believe in science or reducing the debt . Is that conservative ? Yup. Has been for decades.
     
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    An observer who can see the obvious, despite the claims.

    I'm a centrist, do you concur?
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I do not care if you believe that you are a centrist.You may be. what is important is that I am not going to tell you that you are not a centrist. I will not tell a member her that they are not Republicans or not Democrats or that they are one of those.

    Now celebrity or a member of Congress I can tell them if they are governing like a Democrat. But still that would be my opinion of what a Democrat is. Just as you tell someone that they are Democrats you obviously or hopefully base that on your opinion of what a Democrat is.
     
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    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    That sounds noble
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    OPPORTUNIST SELF SERVING NARCISSIST
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, sure, pal.

    Hey, please help me out with something. Where did you get your real, functioning crystal ball? I thought that these were myths and fantasies and did not exist in reality, but apparently not; you seem to have one. Are they on Amazon? Or some sort of special import from Transylvania in Romania? Do they need powder from unicorn horns to work? If yes, how do you get that?

    The reason I'm asking is that they might be pretty handy if they allow you to read people's minds. One might use them to find out what bosses and co-workers really think, not to forget, members of the opposite sex.

    Does your crystal ball, in addition to reading minds, also have a future prediction mode? I'd want one even more if that's the case; you know, lotteries and all.

    Are they expensive? If that's the case and they don't come with the future prediction mode, one wonders if they are worth the expense, but of course, if predicting the future is also included, the earnings from winning lottery tickets would offset the cost.

    I'd also love to know how my NFL Fantasy players will perform; these decisions on who to start can be excruciating (I know, First World Problem, right? But one must pass the time during this boring pandemic).

    Thank you. Any advice on how to get one is very appreciated.
     
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    Much funny! Thanks
     
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    I wonder why he doesn't fear retribution? I have thought it was because Trump's stranglehold on the republican party does not extend to Romney's Morman support in Utah. Mormans tend to be pretty supportive of their own it seems in my experience. That is my guess anyhow.
     
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    Cute, but your post betray you.
     
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    Could be. But it could also be that he recognizes Trump for who/what he is and thinks that America is more important than his own position in it.
     
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    Aren't they all?
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks. At least you find me cute. I regret to say that I cannot reciprocate. I don't find you cute, sorry.
     
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    Romney doesn't support Trump. Many people don't, and still are Republicans.

    What some seem to be missing is that 'Republicans' aren't a one-mold only group. They don't have to like or even agree with what the elected leaders are doing, and can still consider themselves as a 'Republican', or the even broader use term, Conservatives.

    Not so much on the Democrat/Liberal side. One way and one way only, and that is why many don't cross that line.

    All that said, Romney, long before Trump was on the horizon, is an invertebrate. Complete lack of spine, flip-flop based on who he was trying to impress and time of day. No sense of balance or drive.

    I couldn't care less what party Romney calls himself, his character and personality define him. We Independents don't want him, you can have him.
     
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    Not over the top and all consuming and all destructive to our country and Bonespurs is.
     
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    A tax cut doesn't deal with money in hand, it just means the government doesn't take so much. It isn't handing over money. Budgeting is supposed to be allocating what is in hand. Neither side is all that good at the budgeting process.
     
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    The 7 time party switcher is the RINO in my opinion. Trump has changed his political ideas, ideology every time he has switched parties. He really doesn't have a political ideology. So in my opinion those who follow Trump aren't doing so out of a conviction for conservatism or any different political philosophy, they're just following the man, following Trump.

    Romney fits nicely in what was once known as the old Rockefeller liberal northeastern wing of the Republican Party. He's from Massachusetts, won the governorship there, there is no way he can be as conservative as a Goldwater or a Reagan and still win political office in a very liberal region of the good old USA.

    Romney who has been a lifelong Republican, supporting most of their ideals belongs more as a Republican than Trump who last joined or became a Republican for the third time in 2012. I don't know the political attraction to Trump, it certainly isn't his political philosophy which he has none.

    Perhaps Romney is all about getting the Republican Party back to supporting conservative ideals and a political philosophy instead of just supporting a single man. As an old Goldwater conservative with some of Ross Perot thrown in, I don't see Trump standing for a single conservative cause. Just for Trump himself and for no one else.

    No, Trump is the RINO. He's the egotistical opportunist who seized an opportunity back in 2016. Now, his ego won't let him admit he lost this last presidential election.
     
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    What makes you think that the Democrats are all the same? Do you think that AOC and Bernie Sanders are the same as Joe Manchin from West Virginia???

    An invertebrate with lack of spine who was the only one who had the guts to vote for removal in the impeachment trial? And one of the few to speak against this attempt to steal the election? Strange way to be spineless...

    "You can have it" - Who is "You"? I'm an independent too.
     
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    My experience with Democrats has been less encouraging over the last 10 years or so. When I reference Democrats, it is the average Joe, not the DC leaches.

    Nothing Trump did warranted removal from office, so I don't see Romney being the only one voting for it as a positive point. This entire election has been a **** show, both sides and I wish to hell that the Democrats had found a decent candidate to run.

    You, as in the generic of whomever wants him.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair enough. I was against the impeachment attempt also. I'm just saying, it took guts for Romney to vote the way he did (regardless of whether or not we agree with his vote) so this appears to be incompatible with the notion that he is spineless.
     
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    Actually, both have the same policies. Trump has none and really, the gop doesn’t either. Really, they don’t even have an agenda. Trump signs what ever Mich and the donor class puts in front of him, not anything different then Bush.

    After that, he wings it like the repos always have. Everything he does is designed around getting rich off the tax payer and staying out of jail. Really, most republicans when you consider the conviction rates, in modern times of 100 plus to one, hasn’t changed.
     
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    Ha ha
    Funny. Let Obama or Biden parade around begging for foreign help getting elected, and the gop would sht their pants. They sht their pants when Obama wore tan suits all the while pretending Hawaii wasn’t a real state making Obama ineligible. Republicans still can’t buy it.
     
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    I did not vote for Trump because I liked him, I did for what he promised in contrast to what the left offered. He has a lot of personal negatives but he did a good job as President on delivering what he promised where it was possible for him to do so. Without Covid and "Trump murdered grandma" he would have won the landslide he talks about.
     
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    Yeah, he gave us energy independence, stopped the open invasion, told China to stop stealing our tech and businesses, Told Europe to pay their share of European defense spending, started withdrawing troops from Afghanistan and got a peace agreement with Israel and some of their neghbors and didn't start a new war. He pulled us out of the crappy Iran nuclear deal and the climate agreement in which all countries agreed the US should lay down and die financially. You want destructive? You're about to get it come January or so it would seem.
     
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    I don't think it took guts at all. He was appealing to a particular sector.
     

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