~ MOD ALERT ~ Iran's response to Israel's latest threats

22 years have passed, and Israelis are still convinced that Americans are gullible enough to be fooled with this nuke chatter. Amazing!

 

HUH ?

have you already forgotten or would you now deny , , not so long
not having said

your exact words , WOT ?


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Ah, I see that some Americans are still trying to defend Israel with ad hominems, having nothing else. Who exactly did Jack mean with "they"? I want a link with evidence. Ad hominems are not evidence.

 

I see that some non Americans are still trying to have it both ways, link provided in the quote. Anything else you want?

 

He is a liar.

He behaves like a deluded sociopath.

However, let's not forget, he has held several senior posts in Israel, indeed, he has been through almost all of them.

Now, if we are to be believed that Israel are a "democracy", then it's not like Benny boy just came by and grabbed power there by way of a militia is it?

Votes. Cast by people who are Jews. Support. By the public who are Jews. The simple fact of the matter is this. If the Jews in Israel did not want this "mad man" around, he would simply not have such clear status in their eyes. If the Jews in Israel REALLY objected to the 500,000 illegal Jewish settlers, they would simply not be there. If the Jews in Israel really objected to the illegal occupation, it would simply end.

So either they are under a dictatorship and have been for 66yrs.

Or Israel are how they are with their support and cheers.

Plus - is Benny really much worse than much of what has went before? The only half way approaching decent person they ever had was murdered. By a "random lone wolf". On a day that the normally super secure Israeli Shin Bet et all must have been sleeping.

 

So, let's end all of this simply: Why was he treated unfairly?

My bet, is due to the information he leaked out. Information that well-informed authors write about to this day in 2013.

That Israel has nuclear and chemical weapons and refuses to inspect both or destroy both, to INTL. Law regulations(then you have the audacity to tell me that the Jewish People shouldn't be regulated by INTL. Law).

These laws are universal, as Obama himself said, they've become the norm since the 20's. Not even the Nazis used them in offcial warfare, that's how deeply entrenched these laws are.

For Israel to ignore them, for Israel to then have the audacity to claim "X nation is building a bomb and wants to destroy us" is absolutely absurd.

Truth to power, please.

 

Its an Israeli stance, wether Americans or Europeans will go the full distance is another matter.

 

Focus on the thread topic.

Stop the insulting generalizations of groups of persons.

Stop the personal insults and childish bickering.

Fair warning ~ If you can not discuss the thread topic in a civil manner, leave the thread.


Thread Bans and/or Infractions will be given to those that continue to violate forum rules/guidelines.

 

Well, maybe after 25 years more Israelis will begin to accept that Iran didn't build any nukes 25 years ago and still hasn't. Sometimes, one has to accept that the problem is within and not over there. With a small change in Israeli policy, Israelis would quickly discover that their friends on the other side of the border are not as bad as they were told to believe. Maybe this will happen as soon as the US economy collapses.

 

We dont see Iran vision as a "small change" to Israel, most of us will fight to death to ensure that "small change" will never happen, we value our kids that much.

 

Then, I suppose that Israel will continue viewing the friendly neighbor as being a "threat".

 

It is easier to control and manipulate your population by perpetuating an indoctrinated threat

 

The Iranian president is a good man.

This upsets Israel.

They are angry that Syria did not go for them as they had wanted.

And they are angry that Iran are doing all the right things.

They are a laughing stock. Rather than see how much of a laughing stock they have become, how much of an isolated voice screaming at the moon, they go on screaming at the moon. This appearance by Benny at the UN being the latest sad example.

 

I thought I said "ideology" since that is what I certainly meant as with the exception of paedophile perverts, my bigotry extends to:

- religious fanatics of all stripes - ideological supernatural supremicist nonsense (my god's bigger'n your god)
- neo-nazis - twisted failed ideology whose foundation is bigotry and supremism
- holocaust deniers - intellectually bankrupt intransigently ignorant haters
- white power pinheads - morons proud of their accident of birth that they had absolutely nothing to do with
- commies - contrary to human nature it has proven to be even more corruptible than democracy squelching liberty and free speech.
- run of the mill bigots - ignorant intellectual trailer trash who can't see the trees or the forest with a need to feel superior without merit

Is that clear enough for you now Marlowe? I have posted the list of the objects of my bigotry on numerous occasions but for some reason you still need clarification. Not used to such forthrightness I presume.

 

Not so . - your exact words were :

 

Politicians in the West need to grow a pair, tell Israel to shut up with their lies and racism, and demand THEY be brought to account for their nukes.

End of.

 

Thank you for that clarification. Its almost like it you believe it means something else, but that can't be true.


i·de·ol·o·gy (d-l-j, d-)
n. pl. i·de·ol·o·gies
1. The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture.

Of course ideas and ideology dont not necessarily reflect superior knowledge in and of themselves. Indeed when it comes to jew haters and holocaust deniers and religous fanatics for instance, they typically display limited knowledge and intellectual capability.

 

He was treated as he was because he committed treason and broke a sworn oath required for his employment in the first place.
He was a whistleblower who didn't get away with it.

You know like Assange and Snowden and Bradley Manning. Some fled, some didn't get away.


As to getting away with breaking international law. You again seem to not understand how it is arrived at. International law requires a)a treaty and b) ratification of said treaty be each national government.
Since Israel has not signed either the NPT or the CW treaties, they aren't breaking "international law". I have already outlined any number of treaties that the US has failed to sign/ratify or have used federal law to eviscerate.
Have you already forgotten that rather important list of "international law"?

Your logic about Israel complaining about Iran is certainly absurd. I guess the US, Russia, China, UK, and France are also absurd for complaining, only they have gone further than complaining and have actually taken action. Or did you also forget the sanctions?

You certainly view the world peculiarly. A nationalist who condemns other nations for the same actions as your own nation. There's a word for that......

Truth to power, please.[/QUOTE]

 

Why is that Jack, are some of their nukes missing? If so, how do you know and, if you know, why should they account for them when you already have?

 

Jack please follow closely

1... you have called all jews liars who lie all the time.
2. Vannunu is a jew (by your standards despite having converted)
3. Since a 1 and 2 are true, then Vannunu is a liar.

a pretty damn lame one, since this place exists to share and debate OPINIONS.

The sky is blue. Rain is wet. Stating the obvious is stupid, more often than not.

 

Nope.

You are just parroting a lie, when I have clearly stated the opposite.

Which is why you not worth debating.

 

You've been shown your racist blanket statement and, you did not say "they lie, all the time - except Vanunu" so, obviously he as part of world Jewry lies, all the time.

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righto. As I said before, I shall welcome the opportunity to respond to bigoted posts, unencumbered by bullcrap, deflection and scurrious nonsense.

cheers.

 

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I dunno about that. Vanunu would not be a Jew any longer by your
definition of a Jew. He would be Self-Hating-Jew.