<Mod Warning> Jewish Israeli arrested for bomb threats against Jews

Michael Kadar's activity went far beyond threats to Jewish communities. The teen has been very, very busy.

Shoah is Hebrew for Holocaust, literally. I don't see the point of trying to force Jews to use only the Hebrew word instead of its English equivalent. The Hebrew word is of course used in Israel, but why should American or French Jews use it instead of its equivalent in local tongues?

The widely accepted meaning of the word Holocaust is the systematic extermination of up to six million Jews by Nazi Germany and its allies. That doesn't mean that Jews or others don't acknowledge the systematic persecutions and extermination programs of other categories, like homosexuals or Jehova's witnesses. Romani have their own word for it - Porajmos - and oddly enough nobody ever claimed they're lying about it or that their special word must include all the victims of the Nazis.

There are those that apply the term Holocaust to the systematic murder of all the victims of Nazi persecutions. Nizkor, for instance.

I don't understand what has the number of victims to do with the use of the word Holocaust.

 

Nothing. The contention is that Zionists like to corral the term ' Holocaust ' as a tool for sympathy-harvesting. Chicken-Foot is a case in point.

Certainly ' The Shoah ' is the Jewish term for The Holocaust just as ' The Devouring ' is the Roma term- and ' The Holocaust ' is the general term which relates to ALL the victims of Nazi fascism.

You'll find a parallel in the term ' anti-Semitism '- which has been used as a sympathy-harvesting tool for so long that the word ' Semite ' is on the verge of being accepted to relate to Jews exclusively. Of course, there are many other Semitic peoples to whom the coining of the term ' anti-Semitism ' was intended to relate.

 

That may be true in your part of the world but the Holocaust in the civilized world refers to what the Nazis did to the Jews. What you're referring to is generally known as "WWII".

 

Far more than 18 million people died in WW2- twenty million Russian civilians, for example. No- ' The Holocaust ' relates to the Nazi fascists program of liquidating people it didn't like, Jews included. Jews exclusively ? Of course not. Such sympathy-harvesting has to end. It's downright disrespectful to at least 12 million other victims.

 

In fact this is a discussion regarding a "Jewish Israeli being arrested for a bomb threat.The Germans have recognized what has been done, as have the Jewish people and the remainder of the civilized world, so why do those belonging to neither of these groups feel they have some inside knowledge of what went on? Given the limited number of books published in islamic countries do you really expect others to ask Muslims about the history of any world war? Or indeed on any subject outside their religion?

You're seriously off-topic here.

 

I would'nt expect such ppl to leave any survivors in an ethnic war, I really wouldnt, but not only theay have, they are living with them in the same country and allowing those outside to carry terror attacks on them for decades, why if they follow all those things you mentioned ?

 

Dont worry about it, after a while all we hear is just a looong high scream of Arab whinning, we can't make out words out of it, nor do we try

Happy Indipendance day BTW.....

 

It was a UNILATERAL declaration of independence. Celebrate it in isolation.

 

Thx, We won't.

 

Should I start a new thread of Israeli indipendance day tomorrow or just post pictures in a Palestinian whinny thread ?

 

Your thugs are sure to murder somebody. Leave it 'til then.

 

You lot ethnic cleansed almost 800.000 Palestinians and thieved their properties, to make those people into a major minority close to 50%, to a minority of almost around 16%... that you can bully and discriminate around with general ease. And I guess it was one step to far the Jews themselves would build camps and factories to gas all those Palestinians. So.. what do you want? A thumps up you lot "only" are a bunch of ethnic cleansers? You make it seem like it.

And it all comes from the Torah. Were the Jewish God supports genocide in order for the Jews to get their little hands on the land of Canaan. Hence those israeli jews got their own version of a jihad going.

 

Not off topic one iota, Peter Cottontail, not one iota. As to books not being published in so-called Muslim nations, who cares, is my question? You behave as though the planned murder of millions of people is something to write about, only in your sick little mind and in the minds of others who are as mentally depraved as you seem to be, is this a topic for publishing. As it has been said, "blood-thirsty ravenous BEASTS".
On the topic of blood-thirsty ravenous bestial thinking and behavior, here is something from some of your own:

Guess where this maniacal planning comes from? Yep, you got it, "The Albatross". As to your "civilized world" comment, where is this civilized world? Surely you cannot label the behaviors of the past six thousand years, civilized? I bet you do call it civilized, which negates all claims to civility, and especially civilization, i.e., being civilized. A world that is built upon and supported through savagery is not civilized. Civilized means to have Knowledge, Wisdom, Understanding, Culture, Refinement, and NOT SAVAGERY.

The duty of a civilized person is to teach, civilization, (righteousness, knowledge of who you are, the science of everything in life-love, peace and happiness). Remember, Happiness is virtuous living. This your nations have failed in miserably. What has taken place is looting, murder, slavery, deception, lying, ruthlessness, continuous war under the guise of "civilizing" and now there is a hue and cry of spreading democracy. As I have stated, a savage is uncivilized so to call a savage civilized is an offense and mockery of what civilization actually entails.

 

You should care, for one. Why are these books not being allowed? Why the broad censorship? The answer should be clear enough but I'll point out the only obvious answer. It's to keep the citizenry ignorant, and obedient to the ruling classes. And you can see the consequences of life for Muslims living peacefully in the western democracies when compared to those in the Middle East. And of course Muslims will blame everyone for their backwardness in the modern world, (while their 'enemies' continue to progress) but themselves.

Not sure what this rant is about but if you've settled down we can continue.

Agreed. https://www.google.ca/search?q=isla...h=662#tbm=isch&q=muslims+murdering+chrsitians
The duty of a civilized person is to teach, civilization, (righteousness, knowledge of who you are, the science of everything in life-love, peace and happiness). Remember, Happiness is virtuous living. This your nations have failed in miserably. What has taken place is looting, murder, slavery, deception, lying, ruthlessness, continuous war under the guise of "civilizing" and now there is a hue and cry of spreading democracy. As I have stated, a savage is uncivilized so to call a savage civilized is an offense and mockery of what civilization actually entails.[/QUOTE]Muslims still continue with the practice of slavery, selling their children, murdering their children, murdering Gays, treating women as second class, and so on. The consequences of censorship is visible here. It is just not possible for a Muslim to give lectures on human rights.

 

Not to confuse you with facts, but there are Islamic countries which actually publish a good number of books.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_published_per_country_per_year
Books published per country per year

1 China 2013 440,000 New titles and re-editions [2]
2 United States 2013 304,912 New titles and re-editions [2]
3 United Kingdom 2011 184,000 New and revised [3]
4 Russia 2013 101,981 120,512 total [4]
5 India 2013 90,000 total: revised editions not included; 26% in Hindi, 24% in English, and the rest in other Indian languages [5][6]
6 Japan 2013 82,589 New [7][unreliable source?]
7 Germany 2013 93,600 New [8]
8 Iran 2014 72,871 1 January 2012 to 15 October 2012; 53,958 total [9][10]
9 Italy 2013 61,966 New [11]
10 South Korea 2014 47,589 New [12]

 

Muslims still continue with the practice of slavery, selling their children, murdering their children, murdering Gays, treating women as second class, and so on. The consequences of censorship is visible here. It is just not possible for a Muslim to give lectures on human rights.[/quote]

Dobbs, Why are you asking me why certain nations disallow certain books? I do not live in those nations, so it has absolutely nothing to do with me. This reminds me of some of your people asking me, why certain Black people do certain things, as though I am responsible for other than myself. Collectivist thinking, just like a Leftist. Next you will probably ask me why certain people engage in sodomy. Unbelievable! Yet, you and most of your kind detest being asked to answer for things that your people have done. Can you spell H-I-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y? Oh, I guess becasue I am Muslim I MUST answer for others who call themselves Muslims! PATHETIC! As to Muslims still practicing slavery, Most Caucasians benefit from and have a standard of living because of slavery and discrimination of the past as well as the present, which is why European nations, including these United States, where I live, support such barbaric national leaders. So by your standard, I should hold all Caucasians responsible for past and present practices of other Caucasians. You are nothing more than a BIGOT and it shows through glaringly in your posts. This is exactly what your people play upon or some of your people and others, bigotry and stereotypes based on insinuations. This is why whenever I expose your people's disgusting practices, your hue and cry is always, "OFF TOPIC" What is the matter BIGOT, are you frightened to be cornered in your own madness? In essence, what you (Dobbs) have shown me is that you truly believe that Jews can do no wrong, which is psychotic. It is time to put away the books of Talmud and use right and exact standards of behavior. You truly remind me of some of the Northern Caucasians, Southern Caucasians and other types Caucasians in these United States that I have come into contact with in America in my life, who see nothing wrong with their behaviors towards others. The police in the U.S. of A also have this rancid and putrid mentality, which is why I tend to stay away from people. This is a mental illness that has caused more war, blood-shed, animosity, resentment, and outright hatred all around this planet, which is why whenever I hear people use the phrase, "American Exceptionalism" I respond by stating, whoever does not take exception to the manner in which many Americans behave, need their heads examined, so to speak. Bigotry is detestable. I bet someone will say, well you are bigoted against homosexuals, which I will laugh at because I do not assume that I am better than homosexuals because I am a straight/heterosexual Man, nor do I mistreat them. I simply stay away from them because I am not a homosexual.
The definition of Bigotry is one who thinks that he or she is better than another, just because.
Here is an online dictionary definition of the word bigotry:
big·ot·ry
ˈbiɡətrē/
noun

1. one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Iran Of course it's it's not just the number of books published but which books, articles, opinions, etc. can be published.

And of course there is also internet censorship. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-censors-the-internet/?utm_term=.f05077cb7de9

We cannot blame this unilaterally on the Iranian people.

 

People cannot choose the color of the skin they're born with but you willingly ( I assume) belong to a group of people who commit those crimes I mentioned. If you are a member you must therefore sympathize with their beliefs and actions, or you would withdraw. If you're a member of the KKK, for example, you can't say their actions have nothing to do with you. You're going to be identified with the group of which you're a member.

Another rant which has nothing to do with anything I've said. Calm down and concentrate on the debate, please. Also no need to shout.

 

Not to confuse you with facts! Are the books published in these United States, factually based books, or novel? I would like to know because it seems that people in this country are seriously "stuck on stupid" which accounts for many situations and circumstances in this country. A nation of dunderheads is bound to failure.

 

TYPICAL response coming from the forum bigot. You are not telling me anything that I do not already know when it comes to skin pigmentation. I like the manner in which you dodge answering to your Jewish bigotry and animosity towards those who are not Jewish. VERY TYPICAL. First of all, I mentioned NOTHING about the committance of crime. The foolishness about "if you are a member you must sympathize, with . . .yadda yadda, yadda. You just exposed more of your bigotry. Just because a person is the member of The Order of Elks, in no way holds him responsible for the behavior(s) of other members of The Order of Elks. You are pathetic as a stated earlier. Your animosity towards Muslims in particular comes as no surprise to me. I am only responsible for the ways and actions of one, Alif Rafiq, and no other. I am not responsible for the actions of my brother, one of my sisters, my cousins, etc, etc. Just as I stated before, you remind me of racists and bigots in all walks of life that I have had the misfortune of coming into contact with. Give it up Dobbs, you need to obtain help for your mental maladies.

 

From my perspective on your point, the US is a tale of two cities and then a small village. The majority of the American public are clueless and far more ignorant of the world around them than what is typical of many their counterparts elsewhere. You then have a sizable minority who are somewhat aware of the world around them, but heavily indoctrinated in narratives that include some worthy lessons but also some rather baseless ideas and beliefs. You then have your small village where a very small minority are blessed with a rather worthy intellectual tradition and the vast resources at their disposal to expand on that tradition. Yet, because of the corruption of America's political institutions, and how that corruption requires certain lies to be told and a lot of propaganda to be repeated, the great intellectual tradition I allude to is ultimately rotting from within. That is because the advancement of knowledge is based on a quest for the truth, while the need to peddle propaganda is based on its opposite.

 

Americans have the First Amendment something every country should have. Perhaps that's why so many people around the world want to emigrate there. Given the choice, few people would ever want to live in a Muslim country.

 

The sad part is you think any of that actually makes sense.

 

I'm already aware of your hatred of Jews, much like there was once hatred of Blacks in the southern States of the US. I don;t support either position.

Since you brought up the subject of bigotry I'll point out Islamic bigotry against women, children, non-Muslims, Gays and, of course, Jews. If the Elks (your example) ever took the position Muslims take I doubt they would have any members anywhere in the free world.

I have no problems with Muslims whose hearts aren't filled with hate but I find them to be quite rare. There are millions of people in this world who suffer under Islam. I am for their freedom.

 

if you got hate in yer heart, you gotta let that **** out.