Model of limited nuclear attack Russian on coast of the enemy

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two things:

    1) You won't reach me with a nuclear torpedo so :nana:

    and

    2) Star Fleet Headquarters is in San Fransisco, so you nuke us, the Enterprise will be phasing your backside from outerspace.
     
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    Russia decided that as long as the US believed its arms build up along Russia's border would only harm Eastern Europe in case of war and not the US, they would continue the games. So Russia decided to have their own build up next to the US rather than along their own border. Anyway they felt it would be cheaper, since their economy is not doing too well.

    There might be another reason for it though. I read that the US has the capability to destroy all of Russia's nuclear capabilities within 35 minutes. If true, then it's only logical that Russia would move its capabilities somewhere safer...like for instance under the water.

    Prof. Stephen Cohen the foremost expert on Russia, and who was adamantly against Washington's stupid policies towards Moscow, says the clock is now five minutes to WWIII.
     
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    I absolutely agree to the above.
    This thread just reflects the fears of Russia that sooner or later US may gain such amilitary superiority that allows then to neutralize the whole Russian nuclear arsenal before the re-action. No matter what people say, mutually assured destruction is the only guarantee of peace these days. This peace is very fragile and any attempt to destroy the balance is absolutely unwise. We all should reject the concept that the more sophisticated arms we have - the safer we are. We should think instead - the more arms we have, the closer this arms to the other side - the closer the apocalypse day.
     
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    100 Megatons of nuclear power?

    As usual Russians exaggerate! I wonder which would be the tactical advantage in having such a monster. Certainty of destruction of a wide part of the Eastern Coast in a while? Nice ... but it won't avoid the American retaliation.

    And being 1 object, the anti - missile US systems could find it not that difficult to intercept it.

    The best tactical usage of nukes is to launch a considerable number of missiles [ICBMs and missiles leaving submarines near the territory of the target country], with a power between 0.5Mt and 1Mt, to put the anti missile defense of the opponent in trouble.
     
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    I did not understand the question. Who do you call a crazy person?
    I can only say that the Russian never threaten no one. Russian only protected. Look at number US military bases around Russia. And you will see - who actually is a threat to the world.

    Again. Especially for you. The difference between the Russian mentality and the mentality of the United States. For example, in nuclear energy research.

    United States - the world's first atomic bomb and its use against civilians.
    Russia - the world's first nuclear power plant and its use for peaceful purposes.
     
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    You can only hope for good luck. For example, NATO experts were confident that the Russian sea-based missiles on smaller vessels are not able to hit targets further 300-400 kilometers. But missiles "Caliber" surprised them. Is not it?
    If we talk about the power of 100 megatons, these bombs were in the Soviet Union back in the 60s. It is not difficult. (Remember "Kuskin mother" Khrushchev?) The difficulty has been in the delivery of such charges. Now this problem is solved.
    Earlier, US and NATO experts and analysts were sure that is not physically possible to make the marine torpedo, which has a high speed. But there appeared a Russian torpedo "Shkval" (up to 500 km / h, depending on the density of the aqueous medium).
    Still Need examples?
     
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    You do not have to talk to the mirror.
     
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    1. I am happy for you.
    2. Near the coast of California have long powerful nuclear warheads established in faults of tectonic plates. Ever since the days of the USSR. Developed academician Sakharov. Therefore, in case of need they can be blown up and an earthquake would destroy California. In addition, formed a huge tsunami wave that will wash away the remnants of the survivors ...... (In this forum was the topic on this subject. Look in the archive.) In addition, I think that at least 10 systems "Status" are in "hibernate"currently about the US West coast. (As well as around the east coast.)
     
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    This is the Russian copy of Reagans' Starwars farce. Pure science fiction with a slim possibility ,meant to get the upper hand in peace time negotiations.
     
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    You are badly informed. You live in the technology in 1947? But you might like to know about "Kuskin mother" Khrushchev. This is 60th years.
    Now - 21 century, if you do not know. Therefore, the charge of 100 megatons fit into the weight up to 8 tons. (Although I have heard that created such charges weighing less than 6 tons).
    But the latest military developments, we certainly do not know. I think you should understand - "leaked" to the press with the military exercises are not done inadvertently.
    By the way, not so long ago, Western experts have argued that it is physically impossible to launch missiles from small craft at a distance of 1,000 kilometers (Shockwave startup certainly overturn such a vessel.). But, as we all know, Russian missiles "caliber" capable of high-precision to hit targets at a distance of up to 2,500 kilometers. While it started with small ships. (Almost boat).
    And do not forget about nuclear trains (which at the time also said - this is not possible... however the United States or any other country except the Russian, still do not possess this technology.)
    However you can still continue to deny the obvious. Ostriches, for example, hide head in the sand. And the ancient Greeks to say - knowledge is multiplied sorrow. Why do you need knowledge? Rejoice that you are "exceptional nation".
     
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    [video=youtube;yYRJoc5ttxA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYRJoc5ttxA[/video]
     
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    Can a single thread on a forum with some sort of WW theory create panic?
    I'm assuming that's what he hopes, it's a shame he doesn't know better.

    I'm unsure this is "latest world news". The conspiracy forum would work?
     
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    Maybe you do not understand. But I'll try to explain. You probably think that we are talking about one of unmanned submarine "Status 6" and one nuclear warhead? In fact, we are talking about dozens of drones with nuclear warhead. If necessary, they will be detonated simultaneously. And not only about the US coast, but also about other aggressive countries.
    There is also a traditional rocket - "Topol M", "Yars", "Bulava" and others. In the end, strategic bombers (they are now modification and the new produced by the new technologies)
    But underwater drones - the most effective weapon. Flight speed torpedo - less than 10 seconds. You do not even have time to realize that you are not "exceptional nation".
     
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    Do not distort. If you're talking about one unmanned submarine, it is not 20 million but 16.4 million. If you talk about all the drones - is also not 20 million, but a lot more.
     
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    Bravo!!!
     
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    Do you seriously not understand that Russia would get destroyed too if they ever used one nuke? Let's hope your countrymen aren't as stupid.
     
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    The theme contains - November 11, 2015 at the Russian Security Council. You can find in Google. And you can find out what happened at this meeting. If you do not believe the author.
     
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    Many times I have written to you in a comment: Russia is the most peaceful country in the world. Russia never anyone not attack. Russia only protected. Look - number the US military bases and NATO bases around Russia. And you will see - who are the real threat to peace.

    In addition, every Russian knows - if he died in battle defending the homeland, he goes to heaven. Therefore die in battle for their country - it is a great honor. It teaches the Orthodox faith. Therefore Russian are not afraid to die for his country.
     
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    Well, in that case, Russia has some serious communication problems with the rest of the world. If Russia wants peace, why are they saying things like that denmark might get nuked, that they could invade all of eastern europe very easily, thatthey could nuke New York, and so on? Russia is making threats to other countries. Don't you understand other countries don't like that?
     
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    Why NATO expands to Russia's borders? Why the US and NATO are building military bases around Russia? Why the policy of the United States organize coups in countries neighboring Russia? Why western higher level policies (such as Madeleine Albright during her working US Secretary or Senator McCain) called for division Russia? etc. Do not they understand that this is not like Russia?
    You seem surprising that Russia has expressed dissatisfaction with this policy of the West? And you seem surprising that Russia threatens retaliation on aggression against it?

    What do you mean by the "rest of the world." This bankrupt several European countries, the USA, Canada and Australia - the rest of the world? Do not make me laugh. Russia is a very good relationship with the rest of the world, except for a few countries. But this is natural. Is not it?

    For example, Chinese rockers dedicate songs to Putin.

    [video=youtube;0bqjwHJ0Gu8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bqjwHJ0Gu8[/video]

    American rap about Putin

    [video=youtube;Z_PKvaxFFrM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PKvaxFFrM[/video]

    Maybe someone dedicates a song for Obama and the Swedish Prime Minister?
     
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    Almost half way through February now.
     
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    Eastern europe join NATO because they felt threatened by Russia. Why is Russia afraid of NATO anyways? NATO isn't going to attack Russia.
     
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    In November there was a meeting of the Security Council. But now are become aware of some details. This is the latest news.
     
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    You write nonsense. Gaddafi believed NATO. Hussein believed the United States. Why NATO countries fear Russia. Russia isn't going to attack NATO countries.
     
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    Russia is responding to the unremitting western provocations and threats, and letting it be known that an attack on Russia by NATO will have serious and concomitant consequences. Jesus wept do I really need to explain that? :roll:
     

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